Uechi-ryu's Link to China.
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Your mentioning on the "What's New" page about finding the video tapes, of the 1984 trip to China in search of Uechi-ryu's roots, reminded me of some questions I have been meaning to ask you. The following info is copied from a chronology that appears on the Brandon (FL) Shubukan Uechi-ryu web site:

"1897...Kanbun...comes under the wing of Shushabu..."

"1966...Kanei, Ryuko, and other members of the Uechi Karate Association visit Taiwan and meet with Chinese kenpo experts to discuss the origins of Pangainoon. As a result, it is mistakenly believed that 'Shusshabu" was a variant pronunciation, due to differences in local dialect, of 'Shushiwa', a famed kenpo teacher from Fuchow."

"1984...Kanei, Ryuko, Kansei, and other members of the Uechi Karate Association visit Fuchow City, Fukien Province, China to retrace Kanbun's life there and the origins of Uechi-ryu. It becomes apparent that Shusshabu and Shushiwa were different individuals."

Admittedly, I have not contacted the maintainers of the Brandon web site to ask them, but the chronology seems to say that: Shusshabu and Shushiwa were two different people, with Shusshabu being the teacher of Kanbun; the 1984 trip proved that Shushiwa was not the teather of Kanbun; and Uechi dojo should not display pictures of Shushiwa as Kanbun's teacher. What is your opinion/knowledge of this apparent contridiction? I know that within Uechi-ryu, the name of Kanbun's teacher was once spelled something similar to Shusshabu and that Kanshiwa was once spelled something similar to Kanshabu. How did the name Shusshabu get introduced into Uechi history? How did Shushiwa? Do you think they are the same person? Does the Uechi family? Is there any evidence that Shushiwa was not Kanbun's teacher? Could Shushiwa truly have been the great master of Pangainoon that Kanbun found considering he was only four years older than Kanbun (i.e., about 24 when they met)? Just some thoughts/questions that I could use some enlightenment on. Thanks.

Glenn Humphress
th20405@ltec.net
Lincoln, NE

 

Saw a post on the Shushiwa/Shushabu who is who.....well I was calling Master Tomoyose to say Happy New Year so we talked about it, I am submitting this to clear up the myths of who is who...based on my talks with Master Tomoyose. Based on our talks, Shushiwa and Shushabu is the same person, it is a matter of regional or Chinese dialects that account for the name change. Also, the picture of Shushiwa is fine to be in "Uechi" dojos...it is our roots if you will.

As far as Shushiwa being to young to teach or be a "Master" when only a few years older then Kanbun, one must remember that Shushiwa was also a Master of other Martial arts..a man of many talents if you will and he had been training from a very early age, unlike Kanbun who was thought to be "old" when he began his training....so I hope this answers the questions.

Also Master Tomoyose wishes all students a very Happy New Year!!!!

Take Care,

Mark
   

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