Thanks Rick. And I agree with you to a certain point.
Let's start out here:
Similar does not mean the same.
On the face of it this is a "no brainer" statement and everyohe glosses over it and agrees without really thinking it through.
Similar does not mean identical but similar can be the same.
Let's take your video clips as a reference. They may not be available now but you will know of what I speak.
You have a video of Dana Sheets doing San Sei Ryu. I do the same San Sei Ryu as Dana. We had Ken Nakamatsu as models in our learning lineage. This is the San Sei Ryu basic format that is now done by practitioners of Uechi Ryu internationally. This is essentially the same San Sei Ryu that the Shinjo group performs.
Now I don't know if GEM demonstrates one San Sei Ryu and teaches another. In the 33rd anniversary video of the death of Kanbun Uechi Mattson Sensei performs his San Sei Ryu. You know this San Sei Ryu because you do it this way. You don't do it the way Dana does or I do or that Masters Nakamatsu do it or the way the Shinjo group do it. It's not the standard Uechi San Sei Ryu.
For instance, after the double hadijke strike 45 deg to the right you turn 45 deg to the left (north) and do the circular down block and pull across motion (catch) as in Seichin. We do the same movement but in another direction, 45 deg to the west of North.
George Sensei I'm sure does San Sei Ryu the way Master Uechi Kanei Sensei taught him. Jimmy Maloney learned it from George and that's the way you do it. George is exercising his veteran's perogatives and privledges and you Canadians follow his precedent and have not changed to the mainline format.
This is all to say that our San Sei Ryu katas are not identical but we each recognize that they are the same kata. Then you and I and George and Jimmy and Dana can look at Toyama Sensei perform San Sei Ryu as he was taught by Uechi Kanbun Sensei. His San Sei Ryu is not identical to either the GEM format or what is now the Uechi standard but it is the same kata.
You do agree that Toyama's kata is not identical to your model don't you? Even though he turns to the same direction for the technique explained above. You do agree however that it is the same kata, yes?
These kata can be different, not identical, but the same.
The Fuchou Superenpei (Superempi) is not either the same or identical to the Goju superempi. It's a different kata. The Fuchou Superenpei may be
the Shu family form, perhaps not identical, different, but the same kata.