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The knee circles I have issue with, better ways to warm up the knees.
We've discussed this before and I agree that "exaggerated" circular movements with the knees are not recommended. Movement of the knees in a slight inward-outward motion with more emphasis on the vertical action of the legs is harmless and may strengthen tendons that can be easily torn by an accidental twist or kick to the knee.
Fully extended "air kicks" is in my estimation a far more dangerous and damaging action for the knees and. . . far more commonly done in our dojo.
Junbi undo <snip>, properly performed, is an excellent way to teach proper basic uechi moves and once learned "properly", can be safely practiced for life.
the Junbi undo were basically modified exercises once used in the Japanese school system
I was taught to keep my shoulders down (however not in an exaggerated manner as preferred by some teachers) by using my lats. Keeping the shoulders down will not allow my arms to hyper-extend during a full powered "air" strike. Most of my knowledge of joint damage comes from seeing thousands of students performing over the years and questioning them about the condition of their various arm/leg joints. I also keep track of training methods and various joint operations/replacements and have come to the conclusion that their is a relationship between what I consider to be stressful punching/kicking methods and joint pain and/or injuries.
I can't wait to hear more....... Really.
I must say as of yet I have not had any elbow problems. I also tell my students not to fully extend the strike, in order to avoid elbow injury. But, I must say that they still do at least part of the time. I also catch myself fully extending the arm though not "intentionally".
My knowledge base, limited though it may be, comes from my time as a P.E. Major in college, personal research, and I've also been a Physical Therapy tech. for a few years.
In listening to joint replacement patients, I sometimes think the causes they state for their problems are far from fact, at least in a sense. To listen to the patients these are some things you should avoid: Jumping off heavy machinery, running, driving trucks........... I know these all make sense. But we also have patients, (the ones that do not tell you what to avoid in your youth), that are young, homemakers, school teachers, etc., etc.
I'm another good example.
I have some range of motion problems with my hips at 41.
I even mentioned to GEM, that I thought it was due to some movements I did while taking Shito-Ryu. The truth is I DON'T KNOW, what caused it.
I also had a parent of a student years ago, that told the child if he did stretches, he would get stretch marks, like he had gotten while doing TKD as a kid. At that time it sounded ridiculous. With maturity and knowledge, I realized that it was possible, and probably a reality for that Parent.
I guess what I'm saying is that as Instructors we have to continuously research and try to improve what we do, while at the same time..... We must not project our own maladies onto our students. Everyone is different and what cripples one, may have no effect whatsoever on another.
One last example of this would be the front kick George mentioned. I shared George's Instruction of how the kick should be done to avoid damaging the knee joint, with a physical therapist friend of mine. She agreed, I think her exact words were "He's a smart man, listen to him".
I still generally try to do the kick without full extension, the problem is, if I do it with any speed at all it kills my right knee! "Locking" the leg out does not. Why does it cause pain? Who knows? It could be from running, it could be from kicking "incorrectly" for years, my build, etc.
I'm rambling, but I'm enjoying all the info and discussion.
Yes I remember. Never had any problems, but then again I visited Ihor Rymaruk's dojo in Schenectady NY in 86 just after receiving my Sho-Dan. Ihor saw me doing it as a warm-up, and apparently wasn't impressed. He explained the importance of not doing it any more, so I discontinued it.
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