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Thomas Ferguson wrote:
The era in Chinese History, falls shortly after the "Opium Wars"; and, preceding, during, and shortly after, the "Boxer Rebellion".
Robert RedmondSeveral sources report that Okinawa held sporting competitions of bare-handed boxing amongst karate experts from time to time. There is a large rock in Naha City called the Ude-Kakeshi (The Rock Where Arms Come Together). It is a huge rock in front of Yamagataya in the city of Naha. If a fighter put a hand on the rock, any other fighters around immediately challenged him to combat. “Meeting out by the rock” became an Okinawan tradition, one that Funakoshi’s teacher Itosu is reported to have participated in a few times for no other reason than to prove his methods worked 7. No finer example of karate competition can be found. Itosu was training for sport purposes as well as any other purposes he might have had himself.
Sanchin is often described as being the most important kata taught in Naha lineage based styles such as Goju-ryu, Uechi-ryu, and Tou’on-ryu. In the styles that trace their lineage back to Higaonna Kanryo, authors have stated that Higaonna brought this kata (along with others) back from China (e.g. Higaonna Morio, Kinjo Akio, Toguchi Seikichi, etc.). In contrast, Chito-ryu founder Chinen Gochoku (Chitose Tsuyoshi) writes that he learned sanchin kata from Aragaki Seisho (the original teacher of Higaonna Kanryo).
This would suggest that sanchin kata was in existence on Okinawa before Higaonna traveled to China. In the Higa Seko lineage of Goju-ryu and Tou’on-ryu lineage of Kyoda Juhatsu, both schools state that Higaonna originally taught sanchin kata with the hands open. Indeed, in the Tou’on-ryu lineage, Kyoda was reportedly told to do it the way he felt most comfortable (closed fist or open hand). Kyoda's experience is very similar to that of Shiroma Shinpan in Mark Bishop’s book “Okinawa Karate”.
This information to contrasts Miyagi Chojun and his closed fist and dynamic version of sanchin. According to Kinjo Akio, upon his return from China, Miyagi questioned Higaonna about which version was correct. While in China, Miyagi had seen versions that were very loud and vibrant. Higaonna apparently replied that both versions were correct.
@Thomas Ferguson, Where'd your posts go?
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