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Van Canna wrote:
Here is a good example of 'spinouts' in the greatest game of all...the beautiful game of world class soccer....
The fabulous Zinadine Zidane showing his brand of hojo undo
Zidane Spin Move
I'm really enjoying your discussions, Jason. You obviously show a lot of consideration on the topic.
My oldest son is taking a college freshman course in logic. He often consults with me on his problem sets, which I absolutely love. There are many brain-twisters in the problems, and a lot of intentional misleads and redirections.
Which leads me (respectfully) to accuse you of a false argument below.
I've seen this argument over and over again on our myriad Forums discussions. Van uses it a lot, but I give him a pass. Why? Because his modus operendum is to shake people's core beliefs with piss-your-pants scenarios. Better Van cause someone to confront false gods in the safe confines of a Forums discussion than to face it way too late at the moment of truth. If you don't cling to false beliefs, then you don't take Van's bait. If you do...
What you do here is to pit the extremes of classroom training with zero life experience against experience with zero classroom training. You conclude that the lifetime experience leads to 'optimal' performance and the classroom training leads to "a crapshoot." Your argument falls apart in two places: 1) my "reasonably well-trained person" you refer to above doesn't compare to your stereotype classroom warrior, and 2) you've presented no evidence that suggests that someone with "zero training" but a few really bad experiences is going to "respond optimally." What kind of spontaneous generation epiphany turns a blank martial slate into an effective warrior? I know of no paradigm either in law enforcement or the military. I assume none exists amongst the weekend warriors.
My "perfect paradigm" is my Goju/aikido instructor who trained as a kid in the dojo (judo, kyokushinkai, goju) and then became a green beret and subsequently a trainer of said special forces. Another good example is Rory who trained as a kid in the dojo (sosuishitsu ryu jiujitsu) and then advanced his education as a prison guard and an instructor of the same. A good musician understands the balance between practice and playing. A good martial artist understands that training, practice, and experience all count.
Thanks for the soap box.
Van Canna wrote:Bill mentions being safe in the eye of the storm…well said…I teach to attack just as the opponent enters your space, attempting to 'short stop' his swing…
How to Hit & Spin to Avoid Football Tackle wrote:We want him to initiate contact first of all, and then we want him to spin off the tackler before the tackler can make the wrap-up.
Deron Williams Spin Move wrote:Get the contact, then spin once he has contact.
...is brilliant thinking.Bill Glasheen wrote:How to Hit & Spin to Avoid Football Tackle wrote:We want him to initiate contact first of all, and then we want him to spin off the tackler before the tackler can make the wrap-up.Deron Williams Spin Move wrote:Get the contact, then spin once he has contact.
Van Canna wrote:This approximates my approach to the typical bat swing we are likely to face on the streets.
AIKIDO VERSUS BASEBALL BAT
The footwork is exactly what we have been discussing.
Van Canna wrote:Here is another 'spin' I like.
Taekwondo VS Street Fighter (Real Fight)
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