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Stryke wrote:Bit disappointed , thought I was going to see someone finally jumping a baseball bat in real life
Glenn wrote:At first I thought you wanted us to see something the batter, Ortiz, was doing, until I realized that "Pedroia" mentioned in the subject line is someone else who was the focus of the question.
Glenn wrote:Pedroia does a version of the "answer the phone" protective posture in response to Ortiz assault of the phone, i.e. one interpretation of what the right hand does during the first elbow strike in Seisan and during Seisan jumpback. Very common boxer protective posture as well.
Glenn wrote:Slightly off topic, but I was looking for some clips of Seisan that showed this posture well and came across this side-by-side comparison of Goju Seisan and Uechi Seisan, with Dana Sheets demonstrating the Uechi Seisan
On the one hand these two styles have similar roots and that comes through in some parts, on the other hand Seisan is a common symbolic kata name so we cannot expect two Seisan from different styles to automatically be related. Still, it is interesting to see the two together like this.
Stryke wrote:I don't see any move in the Katas as avoidance, I think there responses to hapv and the attack is already happening.
Stryke wrote:I see the jump back as a drag back , and see the jump as largely symbolic, going forwards backwards
Stryke wrote:Each to there own Glen , I didn't mean what you attributed to me , in lots of ways we agree
Stryke wrote:For the record I don't jump
Richard Kim wrote:If one should ever visit Katena and look at the area where Kyan had operated his dojo, one would see that it was near Hisabashi bridge. According to stories handed down, Kyan practiced jumping from a barge anchored below the bridge and was able to jump backward up and over onto the bridge. He did this while practicing seisan
Glenn wrote:I have had a couple teachers tell me that going backwards in the kata really means going forward
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