THIS IS THE POST THAT SIFU MOONEY GAVE ME PERMISSION TO SUBMIT. HE ADDED A BRIEF PREFACE AFTER VIEWING THE ORIGINAL THREAD. NOTE HE IS RESPONDING TO SOMEONE ELSE'S POST IN THE KYUSHO FORUM IN HIS ORIGINAL POST.
I never EVER use any of my own students when I demonstrate the ability. Lin Kong Jing ability is not telekinesis.
Telekinesis is the ablity to move an inanimate oblject. The ability is more properly called teleurgy. A chair doe snot have
the quality of Ren Chi, or Human Chi, therefore qi will do NOTHING to it. My ability does not throw people around, as is
often the case with kong jing people who are PRECONDITIONED to respond in that manner. My ability, and the ability of others
who train in the method will bring about nausea, vomiting, headache, dizziness, confusion, "the runs", and other similar
sequelae. It is not a be all end all technique it is a great adjunct to anyone's training. I will demonstrate the ability on
anyone anywhere and at anytime one person or 20 people, facing me, facing away from me, eyes opened eyes closed
on the other side of a door or a wall. the only requirement is that they be relaxed NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS.
The ones who are senistive to it will react to it quite quickly, just like there are some people who have a low threshold to
pain, when hit in a light manner will react as if they had been decked hard. Then there are others who are not as sensitive
to it, who will take more time to react, just as there are those you have to pop a few times to get them off you. then you
have those who are not sensitive to it at all, just as you have those who would laugh at your efforts to hurt them with your
Regarding randi's alleged "prize", there are people who have "pledged' the money. he does not actually have it in escorw or
laying around in his account. His stipulation is also that the ability claimed and demonstrated must be supernatural in
origin. mine is not. ANYONE who has the guts to do the training will gain the SAME EXACT results that I have.
here is your post for the list discussion at uechi ryu .com
HOW DOES POWERFUL EMPTY FORCE WORK?
Through my rigorous training and experimentation into Lin Kong Jing, I have come up with some ideas as to how this ability is
made to work. I feel that the force gained through the standing, sitting and extra practices, is related to electromagnetic,
or bioelectric force field manipulation. We all know that our earth has an electromagnetic field, and we humans have our own
EM field as a result of this. We are, in essence, a conductor of this field, because of our own innate electro cellular
properties. By standing in the postures, we are able to root down, and increase our ability in induct and conduct this EM
force. This force is what the Chinese call "Qi". Qi is the stuff that Jing is made of. Just like you need a seed to make a
flower, you need Qi to make Jing.
The average EM field of a person who does not train in qigong is weak. As you train in the postures, your own EM field
expands and strengthens. The longer, and more you train, the stronger the EM field gets. This is essentially how Lin Kong
Jing manifests when called on for healing or self defense.
We all know that electricity flows from highest potential to lowest potential. When Lin Kong Jing is used for martial arts
use, and the attacker is subjected to this energetic field, their energy body cannot handle the excess force that it is being
bombarded with. This is why when they are exposed to the Jing, they are knocked down, or knocked back, when they come into
contact with it. Some people have a naturally stronger EM field, and they will be affected by the Jing to a lesser extent,
if they are affected at all. This brings me to my next point.
People have asked me "Why doesn't the force affect everyone the same way"?. To that inquiry I put forth the following
I consider the practice of the postures to be a type of energetic weight lifting. As we all know, when you start weight
training, you just don't go the rack with the biggest and heaviest weights on it, and start pumping iron. To do so is to
invite injury, disappointment and frustration. One must first start out with light weights, and then, over time, go on to
bigger and heavier challenges. It is the same way with Lin Kong Jing. When I first started demonstrating this method, I
could only affect a small percentage of people; they would waver a little bit, moving forward or backward, and that would be
There were also people that I could not even budge at all! After training much more, I found that I could cause the ones who
would only waver, to move a bit more, and it would affect them a bit more forcefully. I also found that the ones who I could
not move at all,were now moving, although just a little bit. This experience happens to this day. I feel that the people I
am trying to affect, are like what we could call "Heavier Weights".
I feel that, in essence, my force is like the weight lifter, and at certain junctures of my training and progress, I need
to test out what my force is capable of achieving with the "Heavier Weights".By way of another analogy, I am sure we all know
people who can go out on the town and drink up a storm without suffering a hangover the next day. I am equally sure that we
also know people who, if they even have one or two shots of liquor, wake up the next morning feeling like they have ten tons
of rocks stuffed into their skulls. This has to do with metabolism. Metabolism involves the breakdown of complex chemicals
in the body, and then these are assimilated for the purpose of storage for later use in growth or maintenance. When you
drink, it is well known that there is a specific amount of time in which the liver will process the alcohol, and convert it
into glucose. If your liver cannot properly process the alcohol dumped into it, the result is a hangover the next day!
I feel that it is the same with the energy body, and the way it can or cannot process the Lin Kong Jing force, when it is
confronted with it. Some people have a very fast and efficient energy metabolism, and they are able to digest the force when
it is projected to them in quick fashion. These are the kinds of people who are barely affected by the force when you
project it to them. Next we have those who have an average rate of energy metabolism, these people are noticeably moved by
the force. They will be knocked down, or knocked back, and are more than likely going to get sick from their exposure to the
force, when they are projected to. The last type of people we will discuss are those with a very slow, lethargic, energy
metabolism. These people, when projected to, will sustain the greatest injuries if they don't back away from the force when
they are exposed to it.
Another interesting thing I have found is that the physical profile of the person projected to, has no bearing whatsoever on
their energetic metabolism! I have met, and projected to, many hundreds of people. Some of them big and muscular, some of
them overweight and sedentary. Some of each group are easily affected, while others are not. What it boils down to is that
you, as a Lin Kong Jing person,will have to maintain your practice, and get stronger and stronger, so that eventually, you'll
be able to affect more people, than not.
I also strongly believe that the practice of the postures cause the brain to secrete massive amounts of chemicals into the
body. These chemicals are perhaps a type of "Key", that allows us access to a special area of the mind that is not used by
people during their normal course of life. You might also say that the Lin Kong Jing effect is used to short circuit the
attacker's nerves, their internal wiring. Whereas a physical attack merely goes after the external muscular and skeletal
Too many people it seems, like to jump the gun when it comes to discussing this ability, because it is so very rare, and
requires an intense amount of practice and patience. Someone said in another forum, well, if they can only move 8 people
out of ten, it still does not make it an effective self defense method. To that I say BS. on any given day your best punch
will not take down 10 out of ten people if you hit them in the gut, or on the jaw. does that mean that your martial art is
not an effective self defense method? heck no, it just means that your method, and your body has limitations.
Take any champion runner, or weightlifter and ask them to do their best record breaking run or lift on command, I know they
will not be able to do it, does this make them a fake? no it just means that there are limitations on everything.
there are kyusho, tuite, dim mak and chin na methods that work great on most people, and will not work on others.
does that mean that the martial arts they come from a fraudulent? no. get my drift now?
>Now Erle is Sifu in Tajiquan and certainly believes in Qi and the internal
>arts!! But not in nonsense. I agree with Erle on this point. I have seen
>'touch or rub' knockouts. That is one thing. The rest is a scam as far as I
Erle has some confused comments in his latest work, he claims
that Lin Kong Jing, or Empty Force does not exist, but yet he claims to be able to disrupt a persons
energy field without contact. If you can do one, then you can do the other. sadly there are more fakes out there than there
are the real item, that is what makes my job all the more harder. please dont make your world so small that you cant see out
of it. there are more methods and realities out there than you can possibly imagine. Just because Erle is a teacher of
taiji doesnt make him the final word on *any* subject at all. Does this mean I dont respect him, no. it just means he has his
position to express, and I have my views also. that is what makes the world go round.
Sadder still is that people make such broad sweeping statements, yet will never invest one minute in the training from which
the ability comes, instead they make ignorant comments and generalizations about a topic for which they have absolutley
no understanding of.
I know what I do is real, because if it was not, I would NOT be training in it still. Those who know better, are the ones
who have seen me over the years as my ability matures and grows. These are the same people who at one time thought that the
ability was a dream, and now they are training and doing it themselves. what does this have to do with kyusho?
It has this: If you strike someone on a point, and your energy is focused and strong, you will not have to exert much
physical force or effort to affect the target. It gives you the baility to gain a different type of strength that grows with
age, unlike the muscles which decline over time.
so, to conclude I have this to say: Just because someone is a sifu in one art does not make him a master of all arts.
Just because a sifu is skilled a few methods, does not mean he is skilled in all methods.