I know we will not change anyone's opinion regarding Sifu Mooney's lin kong jing abilities by exchanging posts here on Bill's forum. I've asked for suggestions on how we can create a test or series of tests, enabling those who are interested, to understand more about what he does. I'm not interested in embarrassing Rich or in blindly accepting what he does as real. I believe the post by Randi describing the TV test was fair and impartial. I accept the fact that the "healer" was not successful in passing the test.
The enclosed letter from Dr. Bouton doesn't prove anything either, but it focuses on another element of this subject that we might consider as part of our test.
We should proceed with healthy skepticism, but not with personal attacks. Lets focus on the subject at hand. . . Creation of a test or series of tests that will help us understand what Rich claims he can do, that may or may not relate to the martial arts.Rich
If jd wants to contact someone concerning me, then he should contact Dr. Charles Bouton, an OB/GYN and a FORMER associate of randi, and also a magician. he can be reached at firstname.lastname@example.org
which is new and only valid address I believe.
Once again I post this from him: read and enjoy - then contact him yourself:
Mon Jul 28 09:31:54 1997
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 11:31:54 -0500
Subject: DSI South Convention
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Rich Mooney then stepped in for a session. Sifu Mooney proceeded to do in the class room what he had been doing since the start of the convention the previous night, demonstrating his lin kong jing abilities. Now for the
clincher, I was there as a plant to see if Mooney was on the level. Most of this took place before his classroom session. Sifu Mooney was in an adjoining room on the previous night demonstrating his lin kong jing ability primarily by one method, the swaying motion of an individual. Now as a psychologist and medical type individual, I am very aware of some natural phenomenae that could account for this swaying. Mooney's methodology was to have someone stand, feet close together, relax, and generally eyes closed. Mooney would make a number of motions (looking sort of abracadabaraish) and as the person swayed front to back, Mooney appeared
to move in harmony with this guy, thus claiming to cause the sway. He would do the same thing with a number of people in a line, each placing their hands on the shoulders of the one in front. Of course in the line the sway was more dramatic.
Well all humans have a harmonic type of wave motion when they stand with their feet together and relaxed. Put them in a line and the action of the ones attached to them joins their own motion and you get a dramatic effect.
No chi, just physics and physiology. Mooney also demonstrated swaying through a door, with his subject with their back to the door to demonstrate it wasn't a visual key. I was not impressed. Again the normal harmonic swaying would occur whether Mooney was there or not.
This is not , however, to say that Sifu Mooney was having no effect on the subject. But a more advanced type of investigation was necessary to determine if Sifu Mooney would have an effect. I was finally chosen as a
subject. Sifu Mooney placed me with my back to him and began to do his thing. I lightly rooted. This would greatly limit my normal harmonic swaying, while still allowing me to remain relaxed. I also kept my eyes open and focused on a point in the room. Again this would reduce my unconscious swaying motion. If Sifu Mooney could indeed have an influence
with his chi abilities to effect me, I would be able to tell this.
Well after nearly a minute of little or no motion, Mooney starts to tell the watching crowd that this was an example of a negative" effect.
Apparently, what little swaying motion I had was exactly opposite of Sifu Mooney's motions. That explaination also didn't impress me. After many years as a performing magician, I too had learned to take credit for, and indicate to my audience that things that happened , which I didn't expect to happen, did happen because I intended for them to, and took the credit.
Yet, there was one unrefutable thing. While I was standing still, with my back to Sifu Mooney. I felt a force litterally reach into my abdomen and start to push and pull my intestines and stomach. It was making me a
little queezy. I didn't say much about it when Sifu Mooney finished his negative reaction speech, but said something to the effect of, "that seemed to make me a little queezy, kind of like something was pushing my gut around. Mooney came over immediately and said he would "wash me down", and passed his hands along either side of my torso, and in a few seconds my stomach was again very settled and calm.
Sifu Mooney next began to do a line demonstration, and to my surprise, picked me to be the front person in the line. The others lined up behind me placing their hands on the shoulders of the one in front. Sifu Mooney began his motions, and I felt the harmonic movement begin in the line behind me, I rooted hard. I had no movement. Even the guy behind me, with his hands pushing and pulling on my shoulders was not budging me even a fraction of an inch, but otherwise I appeared relaxed. As the line's sway increased, Sifu Mooney warned me not to resist. In the next instant, I had to stop him, the same stomach action had been taking place in me again, it had been increasing in intensity, and I was about to toss my cookies on Sifu Mooney and on Mr. Tucker's floor. Sifu Mooney again obliged and settled my stomach with his healing action. I was definately impressed. I have studiend with internal stylists before, including chinese Hsing I sifus's. I knew that if Sifu Mooney's lin kong jin ability was anything
more than a parlor trick, it would have had a peculiar internal effect on me. It definitly did. I also had four individuals attending the seminar with me from the American Karate Black Belt Association High Dan Board.
You could not find four greater skeptics in your life. These were men who fought back in the Texas Blood and Guts bare knuckle days of the 60's. Who had 30+ years in karate each, and who weren't going to be impressed by parlor tricks. Not to mention that a couple of them did not believe in chi of any form, especially healing forms.
One had a sever shoulder injury several months ago. He is approximately 60 years old, and the injury wasn't healing. He has seen physicians, has been receiving physical therapy, and it was looking more and more like a torn rotator cuff, which would require surgery. I went and got him and brought him to Sifu Mooney. Mooney knew immediately what his problem was, even before it was explained. He put his hands on either side of the subject's shoulder, no touching, in a few seconds the subject who had been rambling away about how he got the injury, suddently began to say, "Hey, I'm feeling a lot of heat in there." While Mooney wasn't able to totally heal the injury. His subject in a few seconds was moving his arm in a much larger range of motion than he had previously been able to move it, felt much less pain. In fact he was able to sleep through the night for the first time in a long time. A second treatment the next morning enabled the
subject to do all the very physical technique practices during the day.
Something his shoulder would not have previously permitted him to do. Even on the way to the airport on Sunday morning, the subject could not believe how good his shoulder now felt.
I also presented a second subject, who has had a chronic neck pain for over 25 years, that medicine, physical therapy and chiropractic had failed to relieve. Sifu Mooney, again without knowing what the ailment or injury was, quickly diagnosed it, again moved his hands around the effected area, without touching, in a few seconds, the subject was pain free and able to revolve his head and neck through the full range of motion, completely pain free. This was something he could not do for the past 25 years. Did it last? Well Sunday when he got on the plane it was still working.
Charles G. Bouton, Ph.D.
Texas Tech Univ. HSC