Well-I'd rather also hope that the Martial Arts practiced by the tough but basically peaceful and polite Okinawans-who are also practical-will give us a cog in the evolutionary wheel that moves us away from collective sanctioned violence-and give us other solutions.
"Kap" the famous (well almost) top Sergeant on the German Side in Remarques's "All quiet on the Western Front said: "let's put all the Generals and kings and (what not) out in the middle of a great field, arm them with clubs, and let them settle it"
Sadly, even this bit of "retroevolution" is denied us.
The genrals and kings used to do just that, then "The West" (not alone-remember the Mongols went so far as to besiege Vienna) remade war, and battling it out between champions-or their extensions-professional armies-was gone forever.
The Mongols laughed at personal challenges, and conquered the world.
They weren't the first. The Romans forbade such challenges. A Roamn General executed his own victorious son for accepting and winning one. Disciplina or cruelty?
Sadly, we need to look at national defense like we look at personal defense, full of items and attitudes we'd just as soon not be party to.
My forum was intended to examine Western Tactics and Attitudes and give us a bond (for better or worse) to our own martial history.
It was inconsistent, for example, for the West to Leave Franco's Spain untouched after WWII. Cowardice, or wisdom?
It was not our best moment when we evacuated Saigon. Cowardice or wisdom?
I say this not in the sense that "Nam was a "bad" war (how can you classify?) but if we must fight we should pick our fights, and not pick ones we cannot win. Cowardice or wisdom?
Hopefully, like facism in Europe, communism in Southeast Asia or perhaps its worst aspects, will wither. Cowardice wisdom or patience?
New enemies will arise. Reality or fatalism?
Sorry to ramble. When the Britsh Surrendered at Yorktown, they (in effect) cut their losses abandoned thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Native Americans (amerinds) with whom they had allied to be dealt with by the "Americans"-----the dealing was not pleasant. Wisdom or callousness? Neither? Both?
We, in our own turn, abandoned the Montagnards in "nam. We did the best we could?
I need more questions and stuff, if you feel like dropping by.
[This message has been edited by JOHN THURSTON (edited 06-23-99).]