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 Post subject: Kyusho Uncovered
PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:45 am 
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Got this from our friend Richard Dean Gibbons of MBS martial systems.

http://www.kyusho.com/uncovered/

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It must be good for young and old, strong and not, agile and not… most of all it must be possible for all to attain and gain the best protection with. And under the restrictions of what and what is not acceptable in modern society. You can no longer teach someone to gouge an eye or destroy them physically and expect to claim self defense in a court of law… it is deemed over excessive use of force as well as a legal breech that even if it was in your defense, it is seen as a crime against the attacker. So it must also fit into acceptable means of protection without brutality.

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 Post subject: Re: Kyusho Uncovered
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Once it was uncovered it was then taken into the long 5 year field testing methods to validate this vital information. But we did not rest on that alone as we employed the assistance of a Nuero specialist: Dr. Raymond Noschang, M.D to medically verify all that was discovered as well as the refinements necessary and or Restoration procedures. Once accomplished and refined, the information was then creating new practical methods and instructional means to assure it is assimilated correctly and efficiently into the trainees own personal capabilities and or restraints.

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 Post subject: Re: Kyusho Uncovered
PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:53 am 
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We have begun instruction of this in our current third phase of training, as it lays the groundwork for the 4th and 5th, on a more exclusive basis for now. We do this as we pride ourselves on the highest quality of information in practical means of use under high stress and spontaneous needs that real conflict or attack bears. It will become more public only after our stringent field testing, verification and assimilation protocols deem it worthy. This will ramify on all athletes and sports, medical and health professions as well all Martial Arts.


This is of interest, Richard. Do we have any videos of this working for a weaker person against a non compliant much bigger/heavier assailant[s] in the chaos of a street attack where both are fueled by huge amounts of adrenaline?

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 Post subject: Re: Kyusho Uncovered
PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:08 pm 
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Funny you guys are talking about this on this thread because I've been experimenting with this in my Thursday night sessions.
Initially just to learn the 'fancy names' of the target areas that we strike.....But in the long run to see if I could enhance the 'little guys' chances in an RMA situation.

I did some in depth work on this with my team back after my first surgery. I was in a weakened state from being 'chopped, split and delivered' and was trying to 'decode' the Bubishi I found on large, non compliant, adrenaline charged opponents that often my first choice didnt work. Eventually with a little 'Uechi Spice' ( Thanks Arthur) the Kyosho was a good product mix for a 'Uechika'.

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 Post subject: Re: Kyusho Uncovered
PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:36 pm 
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Hi Robb,

Thanks for the comment.

I don't want to appear as knocking Kyusho's effectiveness. No question that the human body has nerve strike points that when struck do produce an effect.

But I have always been skeptical of the 'light touch' kos…especially when claimed to be 'easy to apply' by a weaker person, under the effects of the chemical cocktail being affected by loss of fine motor skills, which at least impact, in my opinion, the ability of 'sequential striking' of chaotic moving targets in an opponent who is much bigger and stronger[ even more so under his own chemical cocktail where he feels no pain] and is pounding the hell out of you in a street fight.

I attended several Kyusho seminars and what I experienced was not very much convincing….especially when they got into the 'no touch' Kos...which did nothing for me[ I was told I needed to relax...and even then it didn't work] but that just me...other people were just flopping over.

Reason why I continue to remain interested in being educated in the modalities of Kyusho and in the stated practical means of use under high stress and spontaneous needs that real conflict or attack bears.

My forum is all about realities, at least as I perceive them, and I would gain much understanding in seeing how some of these kyusho concepts work under reality situations.

Take for example the recent stabbing of the forest rangers by a crazed homeless person on the Boston Common.

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It must be good for young and old, strong and not, agile and not… most of all it must be possible for all to attain and gain the best protection with. And under the restrictions of what and what is not acceptable in modern society. You can no longer teach someone to gouge an eye or destroy them physically and expect to claim self defense in a court of law… it is deemed over excessive use of force as well as a legal breech that even if it was in your defense, it is seen as a crime against the attacker. So it must also fit into acceptable means of protection without brutality.



I have heard this before, over and over, but I would like to be shown how this is achieved.

Also is it possible to KO a sparring partner in a sparring match with sequential light strikes without hurting him?

Have you tried this, or seen this Robb?

The best and no-nonsense kyusho/Uechi combo ko applications I have seen are the ones that my dear friend from England, Jim Hulse, teaches, and has made him a favorite on the European MA theatre, if you will.

http://www.uechiryu-karate.co.uk/mainpage.htm

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 Post subject: Re: Kyusho Uncovered
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I am a very harsh critic, (Joe Lewis ...Art Rabesa and Jim Maloney reinforced that... lol) The guy I teach with is a 5th dan under George Dillman, I call him on the 'fantasy of the 'tap, tap' use of Kyosho' on a nightly basis. I have 'BEASTED' my way through the techniques repeatedly. BUT for the labeling and mapping of 'premium target areas' these guys know their 'stuff' my critique is still in progress so I'll with hold judgement until I experience more. My understanding though is Jim Hulse is a 'real deal' practicioner of this style.....I think because he uses a 'Uechi Flair' I'm trying to do the same but also using the 3 rythums Joe Lewis ingrained in me (Head, Footwork, firepower) These Kyosho guys have difficulty stabalizing 'the target when you employ three rythums against them

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 Post subject: Re: Kyusho Uncovered
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Checked out the page......As I suspected this guy is 'the real deal'....I assure you 'light touch' isn't in HIS vocabulary !!!
Nor is it in mine ..... maximum impact potential is the essence of what we train for ie:Art Rabesa, Jim Maloney, Bob Bethany and of course, yourself. I think if we want an experienced 'real deal' discourse on Kyosho we need to hear from GM Jim Hulse himself.

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 Post subject: Re: Kyusho Uncovered
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Good points Robb...I like the expression of 'Beasting' thru the 'taps'...or 'tulips'

I also remember the seminar flops of someone trying a no touch KO on me...I had a hard time keeping a straight face.

'Beasting' is what we will be up against in the street against adrenaline charged assailants, who might not go down even after you shoot them with a .45 [ as you know there is evidence ]...

Jim Hulse is the real deal, because in addition to knowing the 'map' every shot coming at you is for full destruction...and one look at Jim we realize he is the 'beastly man' of Liverpool...and a consummate gentleman.

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 Post subject: Re: Kyusho Uncovered
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I hope I have the opportunity to train with him next time he crosses the pond. In the mean time I will keep "Beasting through the 'tulips' ''

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 Post subject: Re: Kyusho Uncovered
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https://sites.google.com/site/fearsltd2011/home/events-blog/martialsecretsmeetmartialreality

So I wrote this while in the hospital under the influence of pain killers about 4 years ago ......(disclaimer)
the content was thoroughly researched and will be the basis of the next two blogs I write called 'The good touch' I will do my best to leave 'no stone unturned' in my presentation....stay tuned

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