mhosea wrote:That really wasn't my point (giving ideas different levels of consideration). It was about not being rude.
Not being rude, specifically to elders? Admittedly, I get testier than a perfect person would. However, it seems to my level of rudeness rises in response to the level of rudeness first directed my way. Again, for a perfect person it wouldn't matter, but I've never claimed perfection. When people are rude to me, I can generally ignore it for a while (and indefinitely in some cases) but eventually I get frustrated and prone to sarcasm. If you look at that thread, I think you'll see I was entirely polite until Van started calling me a hoplophobe and a hypocrite and for a good while after that, but I did eventually get annoyed with it. And still, I didn't respond with namecalling, but just by being testy. So I would be curious to know how you think I was being rude that others weren't initiating.
Yes, "he hit me first" is an immature excuse for any poor behavior. And certainly I shouldn't take that bait. That said, in this thread I'm largely being criticized for immaturity, which makes me wonder why my response to being mocked is considered immature, but the mockery itself, or other's responses to my perceived rudeness aren't. Now perhaps this is where the elder variable comes in for you? That I'm held to a tighter standard because of who I am (Younger, lower-ranking in karate)? That's a principle I definitely disagree with. Consider that Stevie called me a "pinko commie faggot" and in this thread is threatening violence if he should ever meet me, all over comments that weren't even directed at him to begin with. Whether he's serious or not, how can you condemn me for "verbal incontinence" and ignore those things?
As I said in the other thread, I don't mind being insulted on the internet. Not in the sense of being personally hurt by it. But I also don't particularly feel bad about being sarcastic to people who are being hostile. While I do think it would be better to remain entirely detached, being a little testy does't seem like a terrible crime to me. What's interesting to me is that certain people (Van in this last instance) seem to start mocking me and expect me to just ignore it, but then get indignant (or outright furious) if I am less than perfectly polite in return.