I do like sport fighting.but even those people that you talked about could be taken by surprise in a streetfight........somebody fought Mike Tyson in a streetfight, don't forget.
We need to be clear on what the point of our discussions is.
Anybody can be taken by surprise in a street fight, and the surprises can be many_ we all know that_ this has been the theme of my forum for years on end.
Any serious student of self defense/self protection is likely well aware of the difference between sports and combat, mindset and dynamics of violence. Even more so if he has done more specific training, or even read books by Rory Miller. But that guarantees nothing in the street.
The underbelly of the world, the young gangbanger, the mafia hit man and the like, will always have an advantage even over the strongest men in the world the most well trained boxers, the best martial artists, the armed man, etc., you name it_ especially if surprise is a factor.
Yes it is, one of my friends sent me clip of a full contact event, but with protective equipment. It seemed to me a trade of punches and kicks. Although the guys involved were a lot younger than I am ( and I hate old men who talk tough)....I think I would have won, and this would be simply down to mindset.
Here you are talking about two different horses…the clip of the full contact event is nothing but a sport event governed by rules with a referee in the ring. It is not street combat.
Now if you change the engagement_ by removing referee and rules, and allow the fighters to go at each other anyway they want _you will see a different fight looking more like taking someone out with mindset and continuous striking based on what skills the fighter took to the ring. That would be more like combat, but not entirely, because it is not a street fight, and there is no catching the other fighter by surprise. But think of the attributes each fighter took to the ring.
What we need to concentrate on is percentages of success if there is to be any. And percentages favor the well prepared.
_Catching by surprise or not, underbelly of the world or not, mafia hit man or not, a well rounded practitioner along the continuum we discuss, such as I.e., a Joe Lewis of Chuck Norris, blending their sports attributes with tactical weapons continuum, will have a better chance than the average practitioner, if any chances of fighting back/survival present themselves.
That simple…it is all about percentages.