by Ringo » Fri May 19, 2000 3:17 am
"...The second reason was for information about handling the "interview" part of confrontations. For me that means information about (a) defusing the confrontation while it's still verbal, so that it doesn't escalate to physical conflict; (b) doing so without sacrificing honor or principles; and (c) doing so without causing loss of face on either side of the confrontation..."
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That's absolutely correct, and we wait expectantly, since most of your posts have dealt with other issues
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"..I am aware that many martial artists may not agree with me about that third part; this is because they disagree with me about the definition of the verb "win." I can only say that there is a venerable tradition in most of the physical martial arts to the effect that the greatest victory is to avoid a battle honorably.."
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Indeed there is, now could we get on with it ,please?
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"..I have tried to provide the necessary information; I've worked very hard at that. I am now convinced that the students who've said it can't be done adequately unless the people participating have taken the time to read one of my books (or attend a seminar, if that had been possible) are correct..."
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I hope you're mistaken in that, While I've read 2 of your books, I think any of us could learn from you provided we keep an open mind and you stick to the subject.
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"..In some ways the situation reminds me constantly of my experience with medical seminars. Most of my seminars are for doctors; typically, the seminar includes three to seven hundred doctors (mostly male)...
the current situation is much like that one. I'm trying to function within a culture that is largely male, highly "macho," very aggressive, and focused on winning. The fact that I am a woman, and that I'm not certified in a physical martial art, doesn't help..."
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No, it's the fact that you don't know our history. We are no more "macho" ( clearly a pejorative in the context of your statement) for studying the MA's than you are "butch" for getting a Phd, rather than staying home and baking cookies..
May I respectfully suggest you type "No Holds Barred" or Search "Ultimate Fighting Championship" on the web for a truly Neanderthal experience?
You see, the fact is that this is a forum for dinasours. Sadly, Karateka put $ above their principles when kickboxing became a sport in the early 1970's. Prior to that it was UNTHINKABLE that a Karateka would use his art other than in self defense , when all other options had failed. Let boxers entertain the bloodthirsty mob; but not us!
Suffice it to say, most MA arts, publications and forums have gone downhill in the humanity meter. I am not an Uechi-Ryu stylist myself, but I appreciate this forum because it does remind me of the 'good old days'
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.. whether what I'm trying to teach has any relevance or value for physical martial artists. As a result, I have to spend much of the limited time I have available for the forum engaged in trying to counter that dubiousness. That holds me back; it leaves me very little time or space for actually teaching verbal self-defense."
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Righto! Let's get on with it, please.
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My greatest challenge in teaching VSD is almost always convincing the person facing attacks to _try_, just once. Let's consider women who are battered by their spouses/partners, as an example. Their attitude toward what I tell them is overwhelmingly and unanimously "That would never work. Not with _my_ husband!" When I'm able to convince them to try, just once, I get phone calls and letters, usually very joyful phone calls and letters, saying that to their utter astonishment it _worked... they are never victims in precisely the same way again..."
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Are you serious? BATTERED WOMEN? If you mean verbally abused I could understand your statement. BATTERED, at least for most of us who speak English, means physically beaten, as in a trip to the hospital or-eventually--worse, Could you please define your terms?
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"I am also reminded of the law enforcement seminars that I've taught. I was shocked the first time an LE professional said to me, "Look, I don't care whether your VSD stuff works or not. I wouldn't _want_ it to work. You'd be taking all the FUN out of this job!" ---------------------------------------------
What an idiot. Can't think of a single LEO I've met who'd want him as a partner. He's probably hanging around one of those NHB forums...
Now about defusing violence...?
[This message has been edited by Ringo (edited May 18, 2000).]