I guess I can't argue with that. The "flavor" of BJJ/Judo tends to be a little different than the "flavor" of the older JJ styles, at least in my experience. But they all eventually come from the same place.
Re: The Real World
In the real world, concrete is hard, uneven, and generally damn uncomfortable to be on. Bad guys frequently use weapons, have friends, and never, ever, fight fair. The last place I want to be in a confrontation is on the ground.
IMHO (note: Pet theory, borrowed from Quincy Rice of the Underground): The reason BJJ focuses so much on ne-waza is because the exponents of BJJ refined their skills in Vale Tudo matches: One on One fights, frequently with very skilled strikers. As a result, the focus of the art became dragging the striker down (it's harder to punch from your back), and dealing with him through ne-waza from there. The throwing aspect was de-emphasized because it's much harder to get a good throw in when someone is elbowing you in the head.
There may be no "ippon" on the street, but guess what? There's no tapping out either. Getting slammed headfirst into the pavement is unlikely to improve your day.
There's a reason Judo players don't practice on concrete much...they'd all be working out from the hospital.
In short...don't discount throws at all...they are some of the most powerful tools in your arsenal.
Just think of hitting the guy with concrete.
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[This message has been edited by Jake Steinmann (edited April 19, 2001).]