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Oldfist wrote:Could there be an intelligent designer who designs all and only those things, entities, etc. that don't design themselves?
IJ wrote:I thought the 4D universe was like a 3D one that's changing with motion on the axis of "time."
IJ wrote: We're stuck going forward (we have freedom on x, y, and z, in contrast), but it otherwise works for me. 5D is where i get totally lost and resort to unsatisfying analogy: like infinite 4D universes, all in the same "place" and you can click between em like channels on a TV). I wonder if it's our tiny noodles or the fact that the world stops at 4D that we can't envision more?
Oldfist wrote:Could there be an intelligent designer who designs all and only those things, entitites, etc. that don't design themselves?
I wrote:I caught a special (Nova?) on string theory and the short version is the MATH works out nicely such that any of 5 theories (later harmonized by some math the narrator described as showing the apparently different theories were all different versions or reflections of 1), each with a different and unexpected number of dimensions, explains the world pretty well and also ties together the randomness of the tiny quantum world and the giant expanse of space and relativity, into a decent theory of everything. Those strings however are infinitely smaller than all he subatomic particles we can barely see and they vibrate on a few or something like >20 dimensions so good luck proving it.
If no "ultimate designer" is needed--then that implies that NO "designer" is needed at all.
Hey, if an "ultimate designer" can just "appear" out of no-where--why can't people??
Either way you cut it---it gets really ugly for the ID crowd.
IJ wrote:Remembering the schtick with gravity on the program: it's much weaker than the other forces, and this bothers physicists. They hypothesized our universe is in one dimension and gravity, but not the other forces, can bleed out of our universe into nowhere we can see.
Photon teleportation achieved
Teleportation - the instantaneous transportation of an object (like Captain Kirk in Star Trek) across space - may seem to be solely the stuff of science fiction. However, at the quantum level, the dream has already become a reality.
Experiments in Austria and Italy pioneered "teleported" information about photon polarization (not the photon itself) from a sender to a receiver using the trick of "entanglement" - a deep quantum mechanical connection between particles that was first pointed out by Einstein, Podolsky and Rosen.
For example, with two entangled photons (A and B), determining the polarization of one of them (say, 0°) automatically defines the polarization of the other _ the second photon must "collapse" into the complementary state (90°). Therefore to teleport the information "45° polarization", a messenger photon of 45° polarization is made to entangle with photon A, thus obliging A then to be in the complementary polarization state. This in turn means that photon B now has the same polarization as the messenger photon, which is complementary to that of A. Then measuring the 45° polarization of B means "message received".
Experimenting with entangled photons is quite difficult, however. Now UK researchers are proposing a much simpler technique of conveying information - by teleporting the quantum state of an atom trapped in a cavity to a second atom in a distant cavity.
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