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If your not going to try and do so--why bother with a discussion at all?
If your making up both sides of conversation anyway--you don't really need anyone else.
We also need to drop this and move on.
kempomama wrote:This ridiculous spat over "Happy holidays" brings to mind a Ralph Waldo Emerson quote: "Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted."
cxt wrote:Look at it like this---if your birthday represented say 70%-80% of the people that lived in the USA--then retailers--if they wish to make money that is--should be paying attention to the market and its wishes.
In that situation I predict that your birthday would suddenly become a MAJOR event with anyone whom wanted to make any money.
cxt wrote:Like I said, I'm not really a practicing Christain---but looking at things from their side of it--I can see why they are angered.
cxt wrote:Taken individually they seem small events--taken togather its argueable that a disquiteing patten exists.
cxt wrote:You have folks running around trying to get pictures of crosses removed from the City Seal of Los Cruces for cats sake.
Only been there for 100+ years
Folks that get on TV to object to the use of roadside crosses--placed there by family and friends of dead LEO's as a memorial to where they fell.
And the friends/family of victems of car wrecks as well.
People changing very old traditonal songs to remove mentions of "god" or "holy" for school "holiday" events.
cxt wrote:Lawsuits being filed to stop people from using PUBLIC lands for nativity tabula.
cxt wrote:Carvings of Jesus being dunked into a jar of urine as taxpayer funded "artwork."
cxt wrote:The oddity of an "outraged" media releasing an inaccurate report that copies of the Koran had been desicrated in Git-mo thereby touching off riots that resulted in folks being killed.
cxt wrote:Strangly their "outrage" was nowhere to be found with the "art work" of Piss Christ--detailed above.
cxt wrote:The lesson I learned from the media's handleing of both stories was that the media views the slighest precieved or real affront to relgion is an abomnation that must be confronted and denounced at every possible turn.
cxt wrote:Unless of course the affront is to Christains and their faith---those folks can be attacked and reviled with impunity.
cxt wrote:Its against this backdrop that you throw in business that set up a calculated, delibrate policy NOT to use the term "merry christmas" for a greeting.
No doubt that "tolerance" was the claimed motive.
cxt wrote:And as the christian set quite rightly asks--
"Where is the "tolerence" for OUR beliefs and faith??"
Good point. Taking it a step further, the problems aren't from Christians, Moslems, Hindus, Jews, etc. The problems come from rabid fundamentalists... of all ilks! It seems that all to often, those who are the strictest "fundamentalists" of their religion show the least tolerance for anyone who has a differing view, religion, outlook. On the most basic level, just about every religion espouses an attitude of tolerance and peace. Unfortunately, some folks, regardless of their claims of their religious beliefs, get side-tracked and ignore those parts of their religion that admonish them to promote tolerance and peace.
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