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I have to disagree.
Life is needed to have either Liberty or Happiness--thats why the Framers put it first.
cxt wrote:Some--SOME, restrictions on ones personal privacy is often needed.
As it was during WW2.
Meta: Yeah....We see how the Government "protects" us during times of war...Internment camps anyone? Those darn sneaky Japs..You'd think we'd have learned our lesson.
*cough* Guantanamo! *cough*cxt wrote:More importantly, unless and until I have some major protections from other private citizens that daily invade my personal privacy/have the capacity to do so etc. I would rather trust the government.
Meta: And who watches the watchers?cxt wrote:There are more laws protecting me from THEM than a fellow citizen.
Meta: From whom? The Government? Seems like they can do more and more as they please these days..Try checking out certain books at the library..cxt wrote:I used to date a reporter and some the things she would do, some of the things that she had easy access to would have gotten a government worker fired and jailed as a matter or course.
Meta: Reporters keep dirt, and the Government keeps dirt on them. It's a game. Besides, piss off the wrong people, and you wind up taking a dirt nap.cxt wrote:She could and did invade peoples privacy on the most flimsy of reasons--all LEGALLY mind you, in the name of a "free press."
Meta: Another reason to dislike reporters. Opportunistic vultures, most of them.cxt wrote:Some intern at the local paper can turn my life upside down and inside out on nothing more than 'hunch" and I have NO LEGAL RECOURSE OR PROTECTION FROM THEM.
And you/the author wants me to be afraid of the government?cxt wrote:Identify theft is growing like a weed main-lining Thompsons Miracle Grow--and you want me to be worried about the government?
Meta: In this area, especially. The amount of data that exists on you and where would shock you to your core.
Individual data protection is up to you, we need to be proactive in this area these days. We cannot afford to rely on the honestly of institutions or Government regulation to safeguard your info. As an IT professional, trust me on this. If you are really interested, I can post data on how to remove yourself mostly from the grid as they say..At least you can reduce the junk mail.cxt wrote:Heck lets pass some laws with TEETH to keep the kid next door from phishing my personal info and going thu my trash--THEN talk to me about the government.
Meta: Again, let me defer you personal responsibility in this area. Example: I have a wireless data center in my home.
Yes, I'm an uber nerd. But moreover, my neighbors have wireless routers. Guess what? They have neglected to enable encryption on the router, and not only can I attach to their network and steal bandwidth if I wish, but I can also employ a port sniffer and other packet filter tools and I can capture data from his network, see what he surfs, steal credit card info, and anything else on his computer.
Likewise, people are for the most part unknowing participants in the distribution and dissemination of their private data.
Let the buyer beware.cxt wrote:And with all respect to the author of the article.
He is being hysterical.
Meta: I wish that were true, but in fact, there should be more outrage. Why isn't there?
Because average people cannot see the impact and control this sort of information can have over us.
It's the times we live in.cxt wrote:Slippery slope arguments are seldom all that solid.
IJ wrote:Supermarket tracking my purchases so they can offer me a 50 cent coupon on green peppers: totally fine, since I gave them the right by adopting their savings card.
Government reading my comments here and blowing up my house in response: Bad!
So what is the specific problem?
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