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If speech is needed it would be directed at ,understanding the pattern of the teaching ,its outline only .

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In my termiology I use the expressions ;blind /partial blind/ aware .
In stage one you would swing on a pendlum ,across the three ,but when you hit the aware part ,your knowledge of matters would be very limited ,you would not be able to write much about it ,and what you did write mostly would go on a postage stamp ;ref; silent atmosphere .
We would be very heavy under local or cultural customs ,influenced by those .
In stage two we can start to see the atmosphere in a slightly different way ,at this point a slight conflict will be noted between life ,culture and our type of practice .

This will also swing across the three .

As we move into stage two ;my expression mirror atmosphere shapes up as a reality to practice ,but the idea of it swings pendlum like two and throw across the three principles blind /partial blind /aware .

As I said all this can be condensed into a one or two line statement .
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In my termiology I use the expressions ;blind /partial blind/ aware .
In stage one you would swing on a pendlum ,across the three ,but when you hit the aware part ,your knowledge of matters would be very limited ,you would not be able to write much about it ,and what you did write mostly would go on a postage stamp ;ref; silent atmosphere .
We would be very heavy under local or cultural customs ,influenced by those .
In stage two we can start to see the atmosphere in a slightly different way ,at this point a slight conflict will be noted between life ,culture and our type of practice .

This will also swing across the three .

As we move into stage two ;my expression mirror atmosphere shapes up as a reality to practice ,but the idea of it swings pendlum like two and throw across the three principles blind /partial blind /aware .

As I said all this can be condensed into a one or two line statement .
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In stage three we are more at home in action/silence /stillness silence ,we also have better tounge control ,our words /speech will emerge out of that background when needed ,now we don't talk for talkings sake as much ,I some times make use of stories ,or again I will avoid them to suit situations ,they are all part of my bag of tricks .
I have here gone overboard to high light silence for topic purpose ,when the pendlum can be kept more in the aware part of the three principles blind ,partial blind aware ,we possess a better listening ear for longer time spans ,this is vital for real self defence ,were we focus too much on technique ,forgetting the atmosphere were deadly threat issue from ,every thing I talk about relates to combat ,technique alone with partial atmosphere awareness can get us killed very quickly .

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Some notes ; stage three. solo study

`When training I don't say this is stage three etc etc ,but in my study and observations looking back ,and further refining ,coming back time and again to view from various angles say sanchin, I know my attention span ,always keeping a check of it ,like a body builder always watches his growth .
I had specialised in concentration in similar fashion ,but now these two would have to go up notch to stay with the silent mirror atmosphere ,to keep the pendlum within the aware part of the three .
But it had become quite clear to me now why the pendlum would eventually swing backwards ,but the research aspect that flowed through my veins had seen a way foreward .

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We focus too much on technique .
I attempted to address this from day one in my methods ,okay in stage one ,my notes;it was present but it eluded me .
Now I know more ,I remain ever watchfull just how I train ,most of my skill and knowledge as been developed in a quiet type of atmosphere ,this is a hallmark to how I operate .
Yet at the same time I could focus to much on the quiet atmosphere ,losing sight at times of progress in technique,even if oral instruction is used it flows out of inner quiet ,both inner quiet and outer quiet are not lost sight of.
The inner pendlum is balanced in a more aware way between inner/ outer ,speech /silence /technique ,are within this balance ,and not out side it .

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 Post subject: Very interesting Max
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Not much to contribute to your thoughts, but I wanted to let you know that we've been reading and appreciating your particular philosophy.

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I with George Max -- keep posting. :D


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Well Thanks Gem sensei and Rick,I will contribute on topics .
It is a difficult topic ,but its one that as interested me ,and obviously there is more to it than I know ,its ongoing and a never ending learning process .
Silence when evaluted and used in theri right situations can be another string to the bow ,speech too .
In life we can speak to break the silence ,but in the methods I speak about when we understand silence /speach we break the silence in a different way ,by slipping back into blind states .

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Basically to sum up so far ,I highlighted the silent atmosphere ,and it may have appeared I devalued speech ,not so .
Its just the choice of when and were in-coming impressions are wanted to go at various stages in development ,experience first theory secondly .
A major problem is we can't always convert our experience in to concepts ,until years later .

At first we have silent atmosphere and actions ,to me this is rich in impressons ,I can use that as a spring board to further enlarge the concept ,that was my intention .
The concept can either wither and die or grow ,but like a single candle it needed some form of shelter ,so as not to be extinguished.
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Lets we are in this silent /action learning situation ,early days ,we spot it .
I assumed its there for a purpose ,just what is going on ? A basic question to my mind ,so in a roundabout way the intellect is involved ,the intellect is awake to the situation ,but the major difference is there as been no verbal pointing at the situation .at a very very basic level the intellect awakens to the concept or remains blind at that point .

If blind is the state attached to the intellect ,its quite obvious impressions reaching other sense modes are maybe too hard at work ,or they too are blind ,and a thought form is not being built ,into the basic question ,the concept in seed form .

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Teacher/ silence / activity.

This concept was present in the original Kanbun teaching methodology ,unique to this system ,in one sense yet not unknown in others .
Out side martial art activity examples can be found right across the spectrum of human activity in all things ,I came across this in my own craft apprenticeship ,the old timers I remembered wanted action not talk from us ,and they knew in quiet like contemplation the grasping of basic principles could be learned and slowly breathed into the work .

silence can and is in many cases a dead concept ,that needs life breathing into it .
In the original method we learn not to blank it out with noise .
When words come of our tounge ,we think are of experience yet lack basic knowledge of silence in the background a major fault it is hard at work .

To learn not to blank it out is a seed start ,its there in the original start to sanchin .

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