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mikemurphy wrote:You know, it's his own fault, he makes it so easy for people to disparage him..
Mike Murphy wrote:
BTW, as a school teacher, I don't allow my students to visit Wikipedia; therefore, I don't either, but I'll take your word on what's said there.
I would be embarrassed if I used this source, secondary or not, in any historical or otherwise project that I was researching.
Without validity, the source is useless.
Why? Did your parents have Encyclopedia Britannica or some equivalent in your home library? A number of different volumes of such were always available in every high school library I ever used. Didn't you ever start a research project with one of these sources?
I took history at Phillips Exeter (near you). We never actually used a history textbook for the class, although one was made available in the library. Instead we read volume after volume of secondary sources which contained detailed analyses on small aspects of human history - complete with primary sources. We were asked to write a term paper for the semester on a subject (mine was on the Dred Scott Decision), and needed at least three primary sources in the references. But I'll have to tell you that I totally lost perspective in class without going to the library and getting "the big picture" in an encyclopedia.
What is a "valid" source? Talk to a Christian, and (s)he may tell you The Bible is the only valid source. As a scientist, I would chuckle at that claim.
BTW, as a school teacher, I don't allow my students to visit Wikipedia; therefore, I don't either,
Two questions... You do not allow students to visit wikipedia - how can you do that. That is a challenge to the students.
It is a great site.
I am now a Physics teacher for the county and we encourage all students to visit Wiki for a starting point when doing research on a lab or project. Henrico county is way ahead of the rest of the country in using technology in the classroom. All middle schoolers get an IBook and all high schoolers get a Dell PC.
The laptops come preloaded with all manner of software and Internet Explorer has Wiki bookmarked.
The school staff meets monthly to discuss technology and the entire county science team meets to discuss our specific needs. On top of that the Physics teachers meet to further refine what we want the kids to use. Wiki is high on the list.
Last month the county Physics team was searching the web for the best starting point to explain gravity, tidal action etc and Wiki's site was clearly the best.
Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tides
This is true for projectile motion, Newton's Laws etc. Granted this is HS level research but it is the place to start. The experts in this field must monitor and upgrade the site regularly.
Barring the use of Wikipedia may not be a good decision.
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