1. I once heard it said that, in comparing the French to the Nazis, that "the French would no more put people in ovens than put their own Moms and Dads in."
This proved astonishingly incorrect when the French "vacation" season came during a very bad Eauropean heat wave three years ago. The French get, by law, a lot more vacation time than you or I ever saw.
Regardless, sons and daughters went off on their planned vacations leaving the oldest members of their extended families at home.
Many thousand elderly folk died.
I don't have it in for the French or anyone of French descent, however, this deplorable incident has certainly besmirched French honor in my eyes.
2. Kitchener, the Boers, and Breaker Morant.
Many of you may have seen the movie "Breaker Morant" and read the book.
This issue centers on sub rasa orderss allegedly given by Kitchener to the boys in the field to the effect that Boer Prisoners were to be excuted when taken in hot pursuit.
So, after his unit had been ambushed by the Boers, which killed their Captain, Breaker Morant, successor in command executed those who took part in the ambush.
Two Members of the Commonwealth Unit were arrested for actions in the field, the "Breaker" and his lieutenant.
The lieutenant had allegedly, in a separate incident, personally executed unarmed.Boer sympathizers on his on hook, in cold blood. He was perhaps justifiably found guilty and executed.
The "Breaker" however took no part in that act.
A former Trust and Estates Lawyer from Australia was appointed by Kitchener to defend the pair.
This was roughly equivalent to asking me to try such a case or undertake brain surgery.
Nonetheless, the former Australian "Solicitor" (a lawyer who does not try cases under the British system. Trial cases are handled by specialized attorney called "Barristers") did an annoyingly good job and repeatedly summoned all those in the chain of command who might have known of the order, most would not appear citing their duties in the field, Many witnesses alledgedly were purposely transferred by the High Command 'out of Africa'.
Now Lord Kitchener had placed Boer prisoners on the front and sides of British trains, invented "Concentration Camps' and other niceties to deal with the Guerillas and I have little doubt in my mind that such an order was issued, and then plausibly denied.
The Britsh were anxious to keep the Germans out of the Fray and Breaker was also executed. The book on the matter is entitled "Scapegoat to Empire".
3. I WWII the Germans had developed (starting in North Africa) the of firing hotly at and killing as many Americans as possible, then surrendering so quickly when overun that their sweat was still on their weapons.
This resulted in many atrocius incidents.
In France this practice was perfected, apparently, by rearguard snipers.
"ALLEGEDLY" an order came down from Shaef or POSSIBLY Omar Bradley, I( wish to defame noone) that such tactics were 'not tolerable'.
I saw films of sole Germans being shot, allegedly pursuant to that order.
The last two incidents came before Nuremburg where it was found that "illegal orders" would not protect troops who were guilty of such actions.
Can anyone shed more light on these incidents?
I will do my best to search out the truth here, although, at least, I am relatively sure the second incident took place as outlined. The troopers would have been war criminals (as would Kitchener, the Hero of the War in Sudan) under the Nuremburg Doctrine, for following an illegal order.
"All Enlightenment Gratefully Accepted"
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