Discussion Area
It is currently Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:48 pm

All times are UTC

Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 3 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: A need for probiotics?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:22 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 11, 1999 6:01 am
Posts: 17030
Location: Richmond, VA --- Louisville, KY
Having done research in an academic medical center, I had some of the best and brightest minds around me. So when the guy who ran the lab (me) got sick, I had a ready supply of MDs around me to write me a prescription so I could keep doing those marathon (19 hour) experiments we would perform.

One day when I had a nasty sinus infection, my mentor gave me some augmentin. It was new at the time... He said his wife had a bad reaction to it, and didn't want it when he brought it home. So it would be fine for Bill. Well next thing I know I had no sinus infection, but had the most outrageous gastric symptoms that a modest person could imagine. I wouldn't invite any friends over, because the odor from the liquid bowel movements was that bad. Finally after losing a lot of weight I went to see a primary care physician. He diagnosed me as having a clostridium difficile infection in my GI tract.
Clostridium difficile (Greek kloster (κλωστήρ), spindle, and difficile, difficult), also known as "CDF/cdf", or "C. diff", is a species of Gram-positive bacteria of the genus Clostridium. Clostridia are anaerobic, spore-forming rods (bacillus).[1] C. difficile is the most serious cause of antibiotic-associated diarrhea (AAD) and can lead to pseudomembranous colitis, a severe infection of the colon, often resulting from eradication of the normal gut flora by antibiotics.[2] The C. difficile bacteria, which naturally reside in the body, become overgrown: The overgrowth is harmful because the bacterium releases toxins that can cause bloating, constipation, and diarrhea with abdominal pain, which may become severe. Latent symptoms often mimic some flu-like symptoms.
- Wikipedia

Basically I had killed most of the "good bugs" in my intestines, which allowed a "bad bug" to flourish without competition. Whether you realize it or not, a healthy gastrointestinal tract is teaming with bacteria that perform important functions. Some help digestion. Some help with immunity. Some help with the development of villi in the intestines which enhance the absorption of important nutrients.

Antibiotic treatment is a relatively new thing for humans. Our bodies really weren't designed to tolerate it. But in some cases the cost/benefit balance weighs heavily in treatment - particularly for pneumonia or wound infections. They are without a doubt life saving in these circumstances. But they are used with a consequence. And they are used far too much.

This time of year, lots of us are treated with antibiotics. Sometimes it's appropriately used to stave off a secondary infection that comes after a bad cold or a bout of influenza. Antibiotics don't cure colds or flu, but they do help a body that's beaten down from these bugs and is vulnerable to potentially lethal bacteria.

But with every treatment, there is a side effect. I've known about the benefit of "good bugs" in our intestines both from academic study and from personal experience. And with my sons sometimes needing treatment for strep or other serious illnesses, I've been aware of the need to replenish the natural organisms that have a symbiotic relationship with us.

What's the old school treatment after antibiotics? Eat yogurt. Why? Yogurt is what you get when you introduce several species of bacteria into relatively sterile milk (L acidophilus, S salivarius, L bulgaricus). The bacteria feed on the milk and cause it to "yog." We add fruit, mix, and enjoy. And fresh yogurt still has millions of live organisms in it.

Health food stores now are selling live cultures in capsule form, to be taken either after antibiotic treatment or even as a way to occasionally replenish the gut cultures. Instinct told me it was a good thing to consume these, and even to make it part of my boys' diets. But if you know me, you know I sometimes am on the "bleeding edge" in these matters.

However just last Friday I went in to a "doc-in-the-box" place to get a nasty sinus/respiratory infection checked. The MD and I had a nice talk about my research. Then he gave me an antibiotic prescription, and a few sheets of paper. One sheet told me about the antibiotic, and how to take it. (VERY important.) And the other sheet? For the first time, I actually had a licensed, practicing physician order me in writing to go to a health food store and purchase a "probiotic" supplement. Wow... I feel vindicated in my forward thinking! 8)

There are many different combinations of bacteria in these probiotic supplements. Your guess is as good as mine in terms of which combinations make the best sense to carry along inside for our ride through life. But whatever the best formula, it's clear that "good bugs" are now a doctor-approved part of our diet.

- Bill

 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:47 pm 
You can make your own yogurt by adding "live " yogurt to milk warmed to blood temperature and leaving it in a thermos flask for 5 or 6 hours. :wink:

 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:45 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 16, 1999 6:01 am
Posts: 1495
Location: Halifax, NS Canada
Agree that yogurt is a good thing BUT just be aware there are choices out there (for example, plain yogurt vs. fruit-added yogurt:

Yogurt, plain, skim milk, 13 grams protein per 8 ounce - 100 Grams
Other Sizes:
1 cup (8 fl oz), 245.00 Grams - View Nutrients
1 container (8 oz), 227.00 Grams - View Nutrients
0.500 container (4 oz), 113.00 Grams - View Nutrients

Nutrient Amount Per 100 Grams
Food Group Dairy and Egg Products
Calories (kcal) 56
Protein 5.73 Grams
Carbs 7.68 Grams
Fat 0.18 Grams
Cholesterol 2 Mg
Fiber 0.00 Grams
Water 85.23 Grams
Calcium 199 Mg
Iron 0.09 Mg
Magnesium 19 Mg
Phosphorus 157 Mg
Potassium 255 Mg
Sodium 77 Mg
Zinc 0.97 Mg
Copper 0.015 Mg
Manganese 0.005 Mg
Selenium 3.60 Mcg
Vitamin C 0.9 Mg
Thiamin 0.048 Mg
Riboflavin 0.234 Mg
Niacin 0.124 Mg
Pantothenic acid 0.641 Mg
Vitamin B-6 0.053 Mg
Folate, total 12 Mcg
Vitamin B-12 0.61 Mcg
Vitamin A 7 IU
Vitamin E 0.005 Mg_ATE
Saturated Fatty Acids 0.116 Grams
Monounsaturated Fatty Acids 0.049 Grams
Polyunsaturated Fatty Acids 0.005 Grams

Yogurt, fruit, low fat, 11 grams protein per 8 ounce - 100 Grams
Other Sizes:
1 container (8 oz), 227.00 Grams - View Nutrients
0.500 container (4 oz), 113.00 Grams - View Nutrients

Nutrient Amount Per 100 Grams
Food Group Dairy and Egg Products
Calories (kcal) 105
Protein 4.86 Grams
Carbs 18.60 Grams
Fat 1.41 Grams
Cholesterol 6 Mg
Fiber 0.00 Grams
Water 74.10 Grams
Calcium 169 Mg
Iron 0.07 Mg
Magnesium 16 Mg
Phosphorus 133 Mg
Potassium 216 Mg
Sodium 65 Mg
Zinc 0.82 Mg
Copper 0.080 Mg
Manganese 0.065 Mg
Selenium 3.10 Mcg
Vitamin C 0.7 Mg
Thiamin 0.041 Mg
Riboflavin 0.198 Mg
Niacin 0.105 Mg
Pantothenic acid 0.544 Mg
Vitamin B-6 0.045 Mg
Folate, total 10 Mcg
Vitamin B-12 0.52 Mcg
Vitamin A 60 IU
Vitamin E 0.000 Mg_ATE
Saturated Fatty Acids 0.909 Grams
Monounsaturated Fatty Acids 0.387 Grams
Polyunsaturated Fatty Acids 0.040 Grams

Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 3 posts ] 

All times are UTC

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group