Shana Moore wrote:
Jim,
You seem to be approaching this from an immediate reaction standpoint and with the training part already behind you. So you are focusing on getting inside and disrupting the full force of a blow before it can gain it's hottest or strongest point.
Correct. Some of the elements in consideration are:
1. Managing the incoming force.
2. Aligning the body to project power and receive power.
3. Projecting a force that cuts off his attack with yours
before his fully develops.
Shana Moore wrote:
You are also focusing on minimal movements (less than an inch) and the fraction of time the conflict will actually entail.
According to the example as I understand it; Vicky was addressing dealing with the force in a drill where the point of the drill was managing force, eg 'blocking it'.. This was the basis for the question.. So in my book other options like moving out of range of the kick was not an option here.
In the kill zone there is no time to do any complex or compound movements.. But it depends on how you want to convert, in a single action or using say two actions.. The ideal is to combine the hard and soft into one action IMO. Offense and defense blur into that single counter action. Therefore each part of the conversion happens together, part to deal with the force and part to challenge/control.
Shana Moore wrote:
You are also focusing on a final solution that both converts the attackers energy and attacks him in an almost simultaneous manner..
Exactly, in the same movement time or action.
Shana Moore wrote:
because you are coming from the standpoint that there is really a limited opportunity to turn this to the smaller defender's advantage.
Because the more time to offense the more time for the opponent to adapt.
Again, I did not take this topic to include all these other issues.. However, I feel that any counter that does not immediately, as we say, issue energy, gives the opponent time to further develop his attack.
The reality is not many folks are going to get attacked by a round kick in the street. But when one is attacked by a round kick it will be fast, you won't know about it until it's halfway to impact.. There may be fakes and feints, and there will be more coming a half beat later. The person firing off the round kick (or any other attack) will by following up with more kicks or strikes right behind it non stop.. The longer you take to convert the harder it will become to do so.
This is why by the second action time the smaller defender's counter attack should already be well developed--if it isn't the opponent's will be.
The primary focus for me is always to enter, to close range, to develop the close range attack. This may or may not be the primary goal of others.
Shana Moore wrote:
I think you are focusing more on straight line attacks because of minimal movement entailed, but realizing that the conversion of the energy of the attack may require spinning or movement as part of the total movement (that last part may be an incorrect assumption on my part, so please clarify).
It's killing as many birds as you can in a single action--that's what WCK is all about.. Any delay, even a small one is not what I am looking for..
Most of the actions we do in WCK involves using very small angles.. But not always.. But even when we use angles for entry (different from inside work) we only use tiny angles because of the time factor--as in there is no time to make large motions...
In cases where they open up the center by using a wide circular attack we can use a direct counter to fill that space..
The best instant counter IMO, (not what this thread was about) is to align, issue energy and counter attack in one single half beat--bang.. Not that you stop there but your counter should contain all the needed parts to fully convert.
Shana Moore wrote:
The main part/focus, though, is taking early control of the center line and knowing when to move off of it or move your opponent off of it. Is that close?
We don't move off the centerline, we move the centerline, by angling or not. If he goes circular he has opened the line..
The reality in real fighting is that you won't know what the person is going to do until it's coming at you.. The correct goal regardless of what is going to happen is to focus on your attack.. So, when you are dealing with any kind of attack your purpose must be to use whatever the opponent does to facilitate your attack. Any action or inaction by the opponent becomes part of your attack.
In real fighting or in a surprise attack there is never much time to do more than the most simple actions--like attack. The question is only how to best do that..