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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:08 pm 
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Dana posted these nifty little dumbbells on a thread in Bil's forum:

http://www.shureidousa.com/training/san ... bells.html

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This was a possible alternative to more fragile pottery urns, but Dana commented that it didn't allow for incremental weight increases. I was wondering if there were detachable weighted rings that could be added?

That aside, I was wondering what objects/toys/training tools you use to train?

This could be as simple as a towel or rope wrapped wooden clothesline pole or tree to the infamous BOB. It would also include things like the clubbells that were discussed in a prior thread a few months back.

My current favourites are the aforementioned clothesline pole (and deck posts), and a bucket of beans that I use to condition fingertips and grip.

Please share your discoveries and nifty tools!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:28 am 
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Here is some real core power training by Marcus...that I find interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CA85Raqbrk

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Good stuff, Van. But these strong boys could use some advice from some Olympic weight competition specialists. They're using a lot of upper body strength in getting that bar up, when some technique could have them lifting more weight and using more core power.

But they ARE big boys... :lol:

I love this lift. I got into it (believe it or not) in my 40s after I threw my ego away and wanted something different from my weight training. It's so much fun, and has taught my body a lot about how to tap into core movement in physical endeavors.

Watch the technique here being used by world-class lifters. Generally for training you don't need to do the "split" for the overhead part. I prefer instead to squat just like in the first half of the lift. But hey... variety is good. Practicing the overhead with "splits" alternating the foot forward is a great variation for the workout.

Sydney Olympics Weightlifting 105+kg Clean n Jerk 2/4

This is by far the best exercise for developing whole-body explosiveness. Again... forget the arms; watch the legs. Listen to them comment about the use of the legs. For most guys, the arms will follow suit as needed.

Watch how the knee-toe alignment goes bad (knock-kneed) when they are struggling. As if I've never had to correct that in karate stances... Also note the ideal squat depth for those who hurl the weights with ease.

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I also love that lift, Bill, and have practicing in some variations all my life...because it gives me driving power.

But here are some comments from Marcus which are interesting….no question he is a very powerful man and a solid hitter with punches and kicks…even Gary Khoury was impressed with the power. So what he does with the weights really does the job.


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Hey Van, glad you liked the clip

Darren got it made and it’s been great, no need for expensive bumper plates and room for platforms.

As for Bills critique, well …. As the YouTube clip states our first attempt it is never meant to be a clean and jerk, if you have the need for boxes, maybe a power clean and push press.

Definitely aimed at the upper body, as a side it really hits the upper back, and that area so associated with punching power.

But the real objective is to play with a certain aspect of the wave mechanics and our take on them, it is most definitely not a numbers focus, like all movement it should be sophisticate and not just to get stronger but better. Establish good gross motor movement

My exercise for leg drive is still the squat


Bill has good advice though, it is not about the numbers, and working and seeking advice of experts is always good (as we are)

One tool I am having fun with at the moment is finger loops for pull ups , adds a lot of potential for variety , and some interesting grip/finger strength
possibilities , shoken pull-ups are a fun challenge .

I still enjoy and recommend the medicine ball work you introduced to me

Its always good to get folks looking at how and what they train hence the clip, so mission achieved.... and feedbacks always good, we have a wide range of conventional and unconventional gear, including kettlebells, clubs, all kinds of free weights, and all sorts of strengthening and conditioning gear, not to mention just body weight yoga, and mobility work (lots of Sonnonesque material)

Pass my regards to Bill; I understand his assumptions and his posting style. Hope his enjoying his lifting and his uechi.

All the best _ camerata.

Marcus

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Now...shoken pullups...well...that is really something along the way of finger pullups 8O

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