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- Bill Glasheen
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My score on this test that appears to be just for fun, and perhaps has not been scrutinized for validity, reliability or generality.......
http://www.self-gov.org/quiz-score/quiz.php
Centrist
But then again, I knew that.
Gene
http://www.self-gov.org/quiz-score/quiz.php
Centrist
But then again, I knew that.
Gene
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- Bill Glasheen
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Well actually...Gene DeMambro wrote:My score on this test that appears to be just for fun, and perhaps has not been scrutinized for validity, reliability or generality.......
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz-faq.html
gives lots of details about the quiz. Who, why, how, purpose, etc. And it also discusses validity/questions/criticisms/validity of the quiz with very good explanations and responses to each area.
I didn't post my percentages before, so I will now. 90%, 90% and it's down from 100% not for the usual reasons. IOW, I voted libertarian on the two "test" questions that reduce most scores...Gene DeMambro wrote:Centrist
But then again, I knew that.
I'm glad to see the percentages listed. I think that's an important part of getting an idea of where someone stands on things. Can't wait to see where you fall in the "Centrist" range Gene... I have a feeling that others might not be surprised, just as you weren't, with that information.
Your PERSONAL issues Score is 100%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 30%.
Liberal.
I amswered "agree" to all the personal ones (with some significant reservations), and "maybe" to 3 of the conomics and "disagree" with the last two.
I have my standard problem with this quiz. Really I want to say "maybe" to all of them because the statements are too black-and-white. For example:
"There should be no laws regarding sex for consenting adults"
I answered "agree", but isn't rape a law regarding sex? How can anything think that law should even "maybe" be repealed? As stated, this question is impossible to answer meaningfully.
"End government barriers to international free trade"
Way too vague and general. What exactly do they mean? Tariffs? Import taxes? Is there anybody who can really agree with removing all laws that may somehow be construed as barriers to free trade (like say, sales of nuclear materials)?
And so on for every question.
I disagreed or agreed with the economics questions mostly because of how they were phrased. I wanted to agree to some, but couldn't because it seemed too iffy and about practical matters, rather than philosophical.
Also, I really think this quiz s very biased in favor of libertarianism, despite their lengthy objection.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 30%.
Liberal.
I amswered "agree" to all the personal ones (with some significant reservations), and "maybe" to 3 of the conomics and "disagree" with the last two.
I have my standard problem with this quiz. Really I want to say "maybe" to all of them because the statements are too black-and-white. For example:
"There should be no laws regarding sex for consenting adults"
I answered "agree", but isn't rape a law regarding sex? How can anything think that law should even "maybe" be repealed? As stated, this question is impossible to answer meaningfully.
"End government barriers to international free trade"
Way too vague and general. What exactly do they mean? Tariffs? Import taxes? Is there anybody who can really agree with removing all laws that may somehow be construed as barriers to free trade (like say, sales of nuclear materials)?
And so on for every question.
I disagreed or agreed with the economics questions mostly because of how they were phrased. I wanted to agree to some, but couldn't because it seemed too iffy and about practical matters, rather than philosophical.
Also, I really think this quiz s very biased in favor of libertarianism, despite their lengthy objection.
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Good points, Justin.
No scientist is without bias; we are all human. That's why the scientific method was developed. It protects us from ourselves, and helps us see the cold, objective, naked truth.
Surveying and testing are serious disciplines. Yes, you are right. These questions tug at you. They are SUPPOSED to. There isn't supposed to be a "correct" answer to any of these - by definition. It's designed to get at your personal biases. And we all need biases to function.
Politics, after all, are a regional/personal thing. Under different circumstances, all our views will change a bit.
I did have one comment though...
I'm not surprised at your result, Justin. It pegged you for whom you are. Wear you views proudly.
- Bill
No scientist is without bias; we are all human. That's why the scientific method was developed. It protects us from ourselves, and helps us see the cold, objective, naked truth.
Surveying and testing are serious disciplines. Yes, you are right. These questions tug at you. They are SUPPOSED to. There isn't supposed to be a "correct" answer to any of these - by definition. It's designed to get at your personal biases. And we all need biases to function.
Politics, after all, are a regional/personal thing. Under different circumstances, all our views will change a bit.
I did have one comment though...
No, because that wouldn't be consenting and/or it wouldn't involve 2 adults.Justin wrote: "There should be no laws regarding sex for consenting adults"
I answered "agree", but isn't rape a law regarding sex?
I'm not surprised at your result, Justin. It pegged you for whom you are. Wear you views proudly.
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my score
Personal: 90%
Economic: 60%
http://www.self-gov.org/quiz-score/draw.php?p=9&e=6
ACCORDING TO YOUR ANSWERS,
The political description that
fits you best is...
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LIBERTARIAN
I was somewhat suprised by my result as I've never thought of myself as libertarian... on the other hand I haven't thought too much about what being a libertarian means. I am not terribly suprised by my "left lean".
As has been pointed out, however, the survey itself is not without its flaws. Too their credit they did allow one to answer "maybe" which helped me through some of the more vague questions.
cheers,
chewy
Economic: 60%
http://www.self-gov.org/quiz-score/draw.php?p=9&e=6
ACCORDING TO YOUR ANSWERS,
The political description that
fits you best is...
.
LIBERTARIAN
I was somewhat suprised by my result as I've never thought of myself as libertarian... on the other hand I haven't thought too much about what being a libertarian means. I am not terribly suprised by my "left lean".
As has been pointed out, however, the survey itself is not without its flaws. Too their credit they did allow one to answer "maybe" which helped me through some of the more vague questions.
cheers,
chewy
another site, more detail
This one take more time. My only argument is that they don't have a "no opinion" or "indifferent" choice for some of these:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/
It squares well with my results on the other test:
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.77
Esssentially a moderately left-leaning libertarian.
One more item of note, in case you were wondering where famous political figures would likely fall in the spectrum of politics:
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politic ... lchart.gif
cheers,
chewy
http://www.politicalcompass.org/
It squares well with my results on the other test:
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.77
Esssentially a moderately left-leaning libertarian.
One more item of note, in case you were wondering where famous political figures would likely fall in the spectrum of politics:
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politic ... lchart.gif
cheers,
chewy
I disagree with the way some questions are worded. You have to be very careful when you read them to make sure you don't misunderstand the question. I agree that there needs to be a selection for "don't care" or "no opinion".
Regardless, my score was:
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 5.44
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.90
Which kinda, sorta squares with my other score. This test says I'm a little more conservative economically and more libertarian socially. I guess that fits, but there were some questions that I could have gone the other way on depending on how I interpret the question. I really don't think this one is any more accurate than the shorter, simpler one... just different.
Regardless, my score was:
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 5.44
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.90
Which kinda, sorta squares with my other score. This test says I'm a little more conservative economically and more libertarian socially. I guess that fits, but there were some questions that I could have gone the other way on depending on how I interpret the question. I really don't think this one is any more accurate than the shorter, simpler one... just different.
Doh, you're right, that was stupid of me. I'll chalk it up to having a fever and a headache and posting late at night. (I feel better now)Bill Glasheen wrote:Good points, Justin.
No, because that wouldn't be consenting and/or it wouldn't involve 2 adults.
It pegged me because it was obvious what answers give what results and I therefore answered accordingly. I do wear my views proudly, but my problem with the quiz isn't the result, it's with the nature of the quiz, as I stated before.I'm not surprised at your result, Justin. It pegged you for whom you are. Wear you views proudly.
One thing I didn't point out before is the fact that people's responses are influenced by the format of the question. It's been shown that people are more likely to respond affirmatively to questions that aren't clear-cut. So if you want to remove a little bias from your test you structure the questions so that for any given axis there are as many that are formed positively as there are formed negatively. On this particular test, all agree = 100% libertarian. Now the affirmation effect isn't the most significant form of bias, but it's easily fixed just by rephrasing half the questions so that all "agree" results in a 50/50 centrist.
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