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Anyway:
You'll willing to dismiss the experiences of black physicians, arguing that they might just be making up the whole thing. Ok, fine, sure. The thing is, it's a bit more plausible that a black physician experienced racism over their lifetime, given all the supporting evidence I gave you, than it is that my statement that there are a lot of white racists (per their own admission and all that supporting evidence) is racist itself. Mine's a statement of fact. Their statements are based on plausible experience plausible. Your statements go opposite to every single shred of evidence posted here besides your own opinion. That's the difference.
"...As opposed to those poor souls in the Nuez-Smith study--who don't even get the chance to defend themselves."
I know you like to hype things up to distract people from the issues, but, they DID have a chance; it's a peer reviewed article. ANYONE who was upset (including you, if you'd actually read the study, which we know you still haven't), could have written in and challenged the findings. More importantly, no "one" needs to be defended when someone says there is a "lot" of racism. I'm not bothered by the survey results I posted. I know what I think and feel. I don't feel condemned by black physicians who felt mistreated because none said I mistreated them or that the charges were the end of the world. It's only you, and perhaps ATH, who can get worked up about this stuff.
As for accepting conclusions without questioning, I've never been one to do that. I am a little skeptical of people who dismiss a whole bunch of evidence just because they don't like what it says, just because. I read letters to the editor on papers of importance to me very closely because they're usually well reseached and crafted and make good points. Your "letter to the editor," would just be "wa wa wahhhh... I don't believe your paper." That's why I'm not interested in your dissent; its as unsubstantiated as everything else you write.
"You didn't want to take the time to sift thu the whole study--so you want to make ME do it FOR YOU."
Lol, yes, it's always someone else's job to do the work. Love it. Hey, remember when you said you couldn't coment on the study without reading it? When you said you wanted more of it? ME NEITHER. You just blew all of it off because you don't weigh evidence, you simply rail against anything that challenges your preconceptions and your petty judgments about which quantifier I should have used (some vs a lot).
"Oh, but it most certainly IS, of your basing those numbers on a flawed, badly conducted, and baised survey--which you are--in fact its proof of the very bigotry of which your infected."
If you could elaborate, you would have made your first point. In DETAIL, how did you conclude the study was wrong? Not just wrong, but more than 10x wrong, since 3-4 million is still a lot? YOU didn't ask for more info, look for it yourself, or conclude you needed more information--you just dismiss everything. This qualifies as argument to you. If you were a police investigator trying to find out if Mr. Green did it in the study with the rope, and you were presented testimony that he did it, you'd exclaim "nonsense, he could have been acting a play, he's innocent!" rather than asking for more evidence and the entire transcript.
"You maybe pretty small fish in terms of bigotry---but I have met Klansman that were less invested in their bais than you. "
1) when your argument stinks, charge racism!
2) especially when you're championing the position that racism is over-called, for irony!
3) isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?
Here's some stuff for you to ponder. Remember, you get your evidence, your links, your questions answered, and your policy is to dodge, avoid, ad explain away all the holes and lack of answers on your side. Want a clean slate? Answer a few questions:
1) how exactly did you conclude that the survey with the quantitation of self admitted racism is WRONG? And how exactly did you blow off the whole Nunez study without reading it?
2) how many racists does it take to make "some" or "a lot"
3) just how many white racists are there in this country, since you're so certain its not the 3-30 million suggested by even a skeptical reading of the survey?
4) How come you'll never talk about the HUD study? Is it because you have no way at all to refute its key finding of racism in housing?
5) To whom should I direct my apology, since I never named any individuals or condemned them for their admission, even? Should I apologize in similar fashion if I ever slip up and say a lot of white people live in new york?
Good luck!