Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:48 am
Sigh... CXT, your faith in your opinions and how much better they are than all the prison authorities in the country is ... um... perhaps just a sign there's point in arguing (it's deja vu all over again). You don't really have the information necessary to discuss jail diets and you don't have the experience necessary for an informed opinion on jail exercise. You seem to think that jails LET their prisoners have drugs, as if they could wave a wand and stop it all, like we do with the national drug problem. You apparently didn't read my comments about how our $ isn't going towards TV; the inmates pay for them. And your comments about sedating prisoners (um, why?) is, well, without any foundation in the real world.
So I'll stick to your questions:
"Don't we own THEM some kind of duty to protect them from being assaulted and raped even killed?"
Yes, I believe we do. There are no 100% guarantees but if a jail tolerates a situation like that and does nothing, they're complicit. The sentance doesn't include rape (or crappy medical care).
"You also ducked the question---why should a seriel [sic] rapist be give such "basic amenites [sic]" when there are law abiding, tax paying citzens that can't afford them."
Because you've deprived them of their freedom and their ability to obtain these things on their own. Jail is about the loss of liberty. People are sentanced to time. They are not sentanced to starvation diets. They are not sentanced to chemical comas. They are not sentanced to 120 degree heat. They are not sentanced to deprivation of healthcare. You take their freedom but you don't get to say "not all americans have health insurance, so you won't get blood pressure pills." That doesn't follow.
Two other points:
--If you can't afford water you sure as heck don't pay taxes.
--Spellcheck is one of those amenities denied to prisoners that you, tax paying law abiding citizen that you are, have access to.
So I'll stick to your questions:
"Don't we own THEM some kind of duty to protect them from being assaulted and raped even killed?"
Yes, I believe we do. There are no 100% guarantees but if a jail tolerates a situation like that and does nothing, they're complicit. The sentance doesn't include rape (or crappy medical care).
"You also ducked the question---why should a seriel [sic] rapist be give such "basic amenites [sic]" when there are law abiding, tax paying citzens that can't afford them."
Because you've deprived them of their freedom and their ability to obtain these things on their own. Jail is about the loss of liberty. People are sentanced to time. They are not sentanced to starvation diets. They are not sentanced to chemical comas. They are not sentanced to 120 degree heat. They are not sentanced to deprivation of healthcare. You take their freedom but you don't get to say "not all americans have health insurance, so you won't get blood pressure pills." That doesn't follow.
Two other points:
--If you can't afford water you sure as heck don't pay taxes.
--Spellcheck is one of those amenities denied to prisoners that you, tax paying law abiding citizen that you are, have access to.