Just asking a resonable question----conflict of interest is applied many times over a judges abiltiy to judge a case in many areas.......and if the judge was a married man and staunch defender of the marriage would people now be saying he was somehow biased?
My best guess is yes
I disagree that "moral disaproval" has much to do with it---despite how neat it sounds when you strawman and frame statements using it.
Since when did "destroying our government" become the standard for what is right and wrong?????
Again, nice job on mis-framing what I said.
I don't want to you "belive" that you are "rightless" when unelected and largely unaccountable people get to tell you what your rights are. I'm just trying to get you to understand
that getting behind such actions......even when they go "your" way is a really bad idea.
As an example----what would be saying now
if the judge had ruled against
Somehow I doubt
it would be "well lets just trust the judgement of the dude in the black robes."
As I said, I'm unware of areas where DP are inferior to actual marriage---and I disagree with and don't find conviencing arguments to the contrary----and again
if they are, then those shortcoming can be easily fixed through legal means.
But by all means please present specific
areas and we can discuse them.
When I said you can't away something you never had.....I was of course refering to the fact
that in most of the USA gay marriage is simply not legal....dispite the fact I think it should be.
We of course could split hairs all day long over various specific locations and rules there-of.......I was making general comment.
Like I said, I always enjoy the rhetorical gymnastics of folks in protected classes
making demands about "equality."
Not saying that such classes are not needed---just that there exsistance makes arguements about "equal treatment" somewhat problematic.
"Doesn't prevent major hassles"
Dude, NOTHING "prevents major hassles" the ONLY question is if the people in question are worth it.
Buddy of mine was dating a women with kids, married her, but he still didn't have certain "parental rights" had to go thu the "hassle" of a formal adoption
....he loved the kids, he thought the "hassle" was worth it.
BTW throwing the whole "slave" thing into the mix is exactly how you lost an important chunk of the black community during the first round of votes.
Trying to place the black stuggle for basic civil rights and your desire not to be "hassled" see above
is not winning you any friends........and its losing you many.
Its simply not
the same situation/parallel.....except in overheated hyperbole.
I'm telling you what I personally belive, that the progressive addiction of forcing their agenda thu the courts instead of winning hearts and minds is why gay marriage isn't legal........heck man if you (and I mean YOU in the GENERAL SENSE, not "you" specifically) had actually listened
to me prior to the Prop 8 vote and stopped attacking and labeling people that disagreed as being hate filled, bigoted, religious wackos we
and I say "we" in the sense that I agree
with that marriage should be a right for everyone, we would be celebrating a victory instead of mourning a loss----and still
fighting about it.
If you need a better example....look how you interact with me
I'm on your side!
And rather than cultivate a friend and ally your trying with all your considerable might to prove me wrong.....and belittle me in the process.
And that IJ, IMO, is one crucial factor in the whole mess that is, from my POV, just a smaller reflection
of a larger problem.