Just saying hello.

Tao · Post by **Tao** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:01 am

Hello everyone,

I am a new student to Uechi-Ryu, and this web site. I have traind in martail arts for most of my life. Starting when I was nine I begain with Butocokan karata (thats not spelled right), at sixteen I left and wondered around for almost a decade learning what I could from people I met along the way.
I am glad to say that I found this style and it is one that I wish to stick with and study for many years to come.
Thank you all for this wonderfull site.

Tao

Tao · Post by **Tao** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:16 am

I would also like to send a thank you out to "Uglyelk". Thanks Laird for setting up the Banff school, and teaching me to bang.

RACastanet · Post by **RACastanet** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:44 am

Welcome!

Rich

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:49 am

Hey I'm still trying to fiquire out how to bang

You know the secret ? Help me out dude!

Tao this is a friendly site frequented by many very senior Uechi Sensei's. Pretty much a troll free enviroment...the moderators do a good job of keeping it so.

It's okay, and good taste to sign your posts with your name.

Not everyone does and that's okay too.

Bill Glasheen · Post by **Bill Glasheen** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:55 am

Welcome, Tao.

Be sure to work your way aound and share your thoughts with various moderators. Pick two or three that you like and follow them. Each moderator has a slightly different specialty and every forum has its own personality.

Also, make sure you share some good dirt with us on Laird. We don't always get a chance to yank his chain.

Good luck with the Uechi. It sounds like you'll give it your best.

Where did you do the Butokukan Karate, and with whom?

- Bill

Tao · Post by **Tao** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:12 am

Thankyou all,

I studied Butokukan karta (tanks for the spelling) in the lower main-land (B.C.), under Canadian master Joe Surelumbus(SP), also his brother Harry, and many other sensei's of the area.

Amos

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:20 am

Also, make sure you share some good dirt with us on Laird. We don't always get a chance to yank his chain.

pulling the chain , lets not go there...hey Bill, I thought you did bang up job documenting the effects of pepper spray! I'm also curious about the effects of tasers...want to do another session.

Amos is one hard working student, who brought some skills with him, he's adapting quickly. He's the guy with the belly tatoo and sensitive colar bones over on Rick's site.

BTW I'm serious about the pepper spray thing!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:26 am

Harry Charalambous

Tao · Post by **Tao** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:35 am

Thanks for the spelling Laird, and it hurts most when I forget my cup

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:50 am

Bill Glasheen · Post by **Bill Glasheen** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:32 pm

Laird

The sincerity of your comment comes through loud and clear. Thanks!

- Bill

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:45 pm

Bill were there any lingering effects you noticed the next day the next day?

Do you think oc spray has value as a defensive weapon?

Bill Glasheen · Post by **Bill Glasheen** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:57 pm

The second shower I took (the second day) left me with some hot sensation around my face. I believe I still had a residual amount of capsaicin in my hair and on my skin, and the soap and water dislodged it and got it on my skin again. But the effect wasn't in the least bit unpleasant. It went away in about an hour.

There is absolutely no residual effect today either from sensation, function, or appearance. The hyperemia (bloodshot appearance) in the whites of my eyes and the tear ducts is completely gone. There were no burst blood vessels that left residual redness in my eyes.

If anything, there may have been a net positive effect. That lesion visible just below my tear duct peeled a few layers of skin off last night. I'm going to get the dermatologist to look at it this week and deal with it, but there's a good chance that the OC may have "burned" it off. Go figure...

As a defensive weapon... I commented in the other thread that I now feel that OC is a logical extension of the metaphor of shomen hajiki (eye strikes). Just like that technique, it is only effective if you get it right in the eyes. Using the language I used in the description of the experience, it is useful to disable the eyes (to some extent) and distract the BG. But it doesn't finish them off by any means. And if you miss...

Like any attack, you get it right or pay the consequences. Jim got it right. My jaw was up front and center when trying to see through the slits. I shudder to think what it would have been like facing a talented fighter if I did anything but get close in and clench. This is where infighting and grapling would serve you well if sprayed. The Uechika would have all the weapons needed to continue if (s)he kept her $hit together and ignored the distracting pain.

Rich also commented how it would be an effective self defense weapon for a woman against a rapist if she smeared the stuff on her hands and skin. No penis would venture in that scenario without severe consequences. And a boshiken into the face/eyes during a clench would have some attitude.

I do believe though that one ideally should experience the OC to use it. As you well know, fights can be messy. This oily, wet stuff will get all over the place in a nasty struggle. Everyone's going to come out hurting a bit. The one with the least amount in the eyes (or other bad places) wins. And anyone who can fight through the pain is going to have an edge. Conditioned Uechika cognizant of the effect (and especially of the time course and limit of the symptoms) will be in better shape. So will a coked-out and enraged/determined attacker.

- Bill

Just saying hello.

Just saying hello.

Hmmm does it hurt more in the testicals or the chest?