Uechi ryu

Karateka · Post by **Karateka** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 2:44 pm

is it the same karate the found taught?

Bill Glasheen · Post by **Bill Glasheen** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 6:39 pm

Is it the same karate the founder taught? Yes and no. The three original forms are likely mostly the same. There have been minor tweaks, personal spins, breathing variances, and degrees of emphasis of hard vs. soft from teacher to teacher and generation to generation. Things have been added and a few things lost. But we all still do sanchin thrusts off the back leg.

Should we care that any of us don't do this brand of martial art EXACTLY the same way it was done 100 years ago? Actually you could view that as the glass half empty vs. the glass half full. I've seen the same people on these forums at one point lament the fact that "the old guard" wasn't privy to the contemporary research we now have on lethal force and lethal threats. Then the next day these same individuals may sing the praises of an old method now unpracticed.

I think we're doing a better job of both understanding what once was and what can be. What was once for generations an oral tradition is now growing up.

- Bill

Rick Wilson · Post by **Rick Wilson** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 7:18 pm

“I've seen the same people on these forums at one point lament the fact that "the old guard" wasn't privy to the contemporary research we now have on lethal force and lethal threats. Then the next day these same individuals may sing the praises of an old method now unpracticed.”

You are correct Bill there are some on these forums with the ability to see what worked and what did not work from every era. We are fortunate to have them posting.

Bill Glasheen · Post by **Bill Glasheen** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 8:04 pm

Agreed.

Nobody has a corner on the truth though. The good ones freely admit that. That's why we all need to keep questioning.

But I know you know that...

- Bill

Spitkicker · Post by **Spitkicker** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 11:33 pm

That's the beauty of the personal spin isn't it?

I've read that Kanbun wanted to teach exactely how ShuShiwaWa did...

I don't buy that. He may have taught in the same manner, however he undoubtedly added his personal spin to various moves, ideas. He would have to teach them the way he understood them;
Shu likely did as well.

I don't think there is one Uechi-Ryu style, nor will there ever be.

Phil Stefanini · Post by **Phil Stefanini** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 2:32 am

Ok. There are differences in training. But in the end, what separates trainee from rigors of training, or for that matter, one style from another is the core, the soul of the martial arts, and that is what connects us. The training is the individuals path and that may take on any form. In the end, it isn't the training, it's the intent.

sdwoodill · Post by **sdwoodill** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:49 am

It has been long said in my dojo from beginning to now that
you take what you can from your sensie or instructor and also from tradtionalal ways but the most important aspect
is the mix that you add to it as an indivual. I think that you would be selling yourself short to think that each sensie when he leaves his/her sensie to either start his/her own instruction that they do not change it somewhat in order to get across different parts of there theories onto there karataka. Times change and so do people some for the good and others for not

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