Every one of us can go over the top from time to time, but from where my PC is, over here, I see Van going out of his way NOT to diss yet still bring REALITY to the forum, which is his forum's main thrust. It seems that addressing reality is offensive, if so then that problem may rest with the receiver of the information. I do not recall Van ever out rightly dismissing a logical argument, or ever posting a personal attack, fact is that Van is the one citing facts most of the time which seems to make some people around here go absolutely berserk... When citing facts from experts translates into slinging insults and using straw man tactics because it doesn’t quite fit in with what’s on the flyer, or in the curriculum, then perhaps it's time to revaluate our world view.
The one universal rule for doing something better is to remain skeptical when there is time, and kick ass when there is none.
ever heard the one about Monkeys not allowed to officiate in a dispute about banannas
....awe shc*tt..what happendedhere.did I post on the wrongthread
well anyways .....I'm glad to see Van backin down on all the cr*polla he posted about boxin and open hands
yeah strawman ( ).....youse cum at me wid yoe open hand....I gonna kik yo ass
so you are the moderator here...let me say, that you are an excellent choice ......you have equanimity ( i'm afraid I don't )
uglyelk wrote:Interest anology John. I'm not much of a competetive fighter these days. I tend to just keep fighting until someone stops me, or until my opponent stops moving.
So I quess we will have to pretend I got ko'd and move on, seeing no one is willing to point out the faux pas I've made, I'm doomed to repeat it again.
Not much sense having a vsd forum if we are not willing to explore these issues. JMO.
I'll take you advice and move on John, but I've got to tell you I don't fell like I got KO'd, I feel like I got sucker punched and that *****.
I expect it will happen again. But hey my participation is my own choice. If I don't like the rules of the game I'm always free to opt out.
I suspect I'll get banned again for treating folks the way they treat folks.
Good luck with your new forum John , I hear it's a thankless task.
Randy Pelletier wrote:John, I disagree with this analogy as sparring and verbal communication are completely different in judgement requirements.
When we enter a competition, the judgement has to be quick and decisive for the continuity of the match as well as
the respect for the skills of the participants and their skills. Yes, sometimes a bad call is made but those are the rules in a fast paced environment where you cannot take back your action. You cannot reflect on the move you just did to lose the point and take it back afterwards to your advantage.
Bill Glasheen wrote:For the record, I PM-ed the post I deleted to the moderator.
Van Canna wrote:John, welcome aboard.
Ø Van, suppose we assume that the 95% isn't quite right, but that there is some nonzero percentage of TMA's that visit this forum that agree with George <
· Okay, John_ then why not write the correct nonzero % vs. the 95%? Hyperbole?
Ø Then I believe him and think we should at least consider his point of view (even if in the end we don't agree) and not dismiss it out of hand as "ridiculous." Shouldn't we at least try?
Certainly. We wish, after all, to make these forums a place for all to feel welcome.
Looking back into my forum’s history, there were words, which were directly ‘challenging’ of traditional martial arts
beliefs, designed at stimulating debate. Words that reflected the studies and experiences of lethal force trainers,
studies of Bruce Siddle, studies of Tony Blauer, studies of Scott Sonnon, studies of Darren Laur, and other such well
It was hard to break through with new concepts for many readers here of TMA persuasion. For example: when I first introduced the chemical cocktail and the adverse effects it might create on some our traditional techniques, this concept created shock and disbelief.
Hip...Hip.. Hooray!!!! Way to go John and congratulations I never had the pleasure of meeting you but I must say you seem like a very reasonable and good man from your posts and what I see as your fair and balanced approach to things..I think you're a breath of fresh air on the forum as a moderator to add to the many good ones. congrats and may you moderate for a long time to come..GOOD STUFF and CONGRATS JOHN...you're going to make one heck of a moderator...
John, Don't assume a thing . I do not understand a darn thing that's going on. As far as I'm concerned I've been given the dirty end of the stick by a few high muckie mucks.I don't like it much!Laird, thanks a lot for your understanding, cooperation, and good wishes!
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