Tag Lines Discussion Moved Here
As site arbitrator I am moving the current "Tag lines discussion" on Van's Forum to the VSD forum here.
Thanks for your cooperation,
John
Oldfist wrote:uglyelk wrote:I wonder how long I’ll be banished this time?
****note post edited to get the site police off my back****Oldfist wrote:
Laird, as site arbitrator and according to the New Forum Rules:
http://www.uechi-ryu.com/forums/viewforum.php f=25&sid=d90281e13757728d436fa08260081928
I am asking you to delete this post and refrain from this type of inflammatory comment in future. This constitutes your first warning. You've been banned once already, so if banned a second time it will be for a duration of (at least) one month. See especially Section I. CC13, CC14 and Section II.
Thanks for your cooperation in making these forums a positive and friendly place for interesting, respectful discussion and debate.
John
Laird, thanks for editing your post.
Please try to remember that we are all guests here, and so we must all try to follow the rules of the forum.
Thanks for your cooperation,
John
In my estimation, posts should not intimidate or ridicule a segment of the martial art community, regardless of how we may disagree with that group's training and teaching methods or the reasons why they elect to train in the manner they choose.
Though I would add that I do disagree that, as you wrote, "it is easy to take someone who has been practicing martial arts 20 years and teaching him/her something different." I find that those who believe that they've found "the way" (presumably because they've been doing something for so long one way) without being able to provide a logical argument, verifiable evidence and ostensibly repeatable results (beyond the mere anecdotal) are the most obstinate curmudgeons; and in the "martial art" community these individuals tend to be rampantly ubiquitous.
This is probably due to the fact that without a combative outlet (like combat sports) many 'martial artists' like [ Lack? ]The 'laboratory' to adequately test theories (regardless of how long those theories have survived
Gets pretty scary here, so the more information a person can turn to knowledge before this ever happens the better you will be prepared to use fear to advantage.
What I mean is you have an understanding of what is causing that feeling in your body and know you best use it or lose.....it!
Then it is only a matter of deciding to RUN...FIGHT (includes verbal) and be aware that hypervigalence (freezing) may occur if you don’t channel it quickly (is your gutter system cluttered not allowing free flow of this powerful energy ?)
Understanding that an "interview" is taking place can allow you to take a proactive position instead of reactive...good information to add to your knowledge base! Then interview the interviewer deciding on your next course of action because in theory you just took some control. Not unlike our kata in uechi...attack the attack.
No thin skins here Neil. My opinions have changed in regard to MA (actually everything). Were all on a learning curve even the experts. May be swayed again or if not take it as is...hit submit!
“In a fight, it is what surprises you that takes you out.” ..... Rick Bottomley.
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Rick
I posted a reply, but upon re-reading it, I found it might be regarded as inflammatory. Right now, I can't decide.
I'll review it later and assess the content, and perhaps post it, or an edited version.
NM
However, it is impossible to endure biochemical shock with conventional methods of low to no stress environments. As I've said at my seminars, a man cannot survive on kata alone (even if his visualization is masterful.) To endure and 'overcome' the deleterious effects of biochemical shock WHEN it happens (not if, since if one does not specifically train for it, when faced with a suddenly hostile subject, 'shock' will occur), one must have some form of pressure-cooking one's physical preparedness in the cauldron of resistance.
It is your view and of some others, as stated, that all that is needed for defense is base traditional training as we have learned it, and that it will suffice in spite of ‘shortcuts’ by other ‘experts’
Though I would add that I do disagree that, as you wrote, "it is easy to take someone who has been practicing martial arts 20 years and teaching him/her something different." I find that those who believe that they've found "the way" (presumably because they've been doing something for so long one way) without being able to provide a logical argument, verifiable evidence and ostensibly repeatable results (beyond the mere anecdotal) are the most obstinate curmudgeons; and in the "martial art" community these individuals tend to be rampantly ubiquitous.
This is probably due to the fact that without a combative outlet (like combat sports) many 'martial artists' like [ Lack? ]The 'laboratory' to adequately test theories (regardless of how long those theories have survived
Gets pretty scary here, so the more information a person can turn to knowledge before this ever happens the better you will be prepared to use fear to advantage.
I posted a reply, but upon re-reading it, I found it might be regarded as inflammatory. Right now, I can't decide.
I'll review it later and assess the content, and perhaps post it, or an edited version.
What should be a concern is what Neil posted.
Many lurkers have emailed me indicating they will not post, as they fear not being able to speak freely and warned and ridiculed.
These are the concerns others and I have passionately tackled for the past 8 years or so on my forum.
Though I would add that I do disagree that, as you wrote, "it is easy to take someone who has been practicing martial arts 20 years and teaching him/her something different." I find that those who believe that they've found "the way" (presumably because they've been doing something for so long one way) without being able to provide a logical argument, verifiable evidence and ostensibly repeatable results (beyond the mere anecdotal) are the most obstinate curmudgeons; and in the "martial art" community these individuals tend to be rampantly ubiquitous.
This is probably due to the fact that without a combative outlet (like combat sports) many 'martial artists' like [ Lack? ]The 'laboratory' to adequately test theories (regardless of how long those theories have survived
Sonnon wrote:
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I don't know why, to be honest, this commentary regarding ancillary and superfluous "tagline" discussions is now including relevant and primary topic issues, but PLEASE could someone contact me before carrying on a debate as to my definitions, intentions and explanations??
Had I not jumped from the link in Van's forum inadvertantly to find out the definition of the term "tagline" I would have never stumbled upon this relevant relapse in the discussion (which in truth should have just happened within our primary thread.)
Please understand that we have history and baggage that we are trying to deal with as best we can.
If no one jumps in and goes crazy then the taglines will fall on deaf ears and no one is dissed right ?
arent the ones who get highjacked the ones that need to be reading this stuff ?
does this not consist of a style ?
George if you perceive a problem I suggest you take it to the site moderator , we dont want to derail this good thread , and drive folks like Scott away because of petty bickering . I for one hope he sticks around
George, if you omit the words "quite strict" since I never stated as such and it contradicts my system itself in the Softwork Continuum
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