Forgive me Neil, if I play devil's advocate on this.
<btw: the no distance idea is addressed in this WCK idiom:
"The arm is a nail and the body is the hammer.">
2Green wrote:In the LV (my-term) kick there is no attempt to build energy in getting the foot to the opponent.
What's the advantage to not using the space for generation of power? Do you think there is more power in the LV?
2Green wrote:The energy occurs immediately AS the foot contacts the opponent, by means of a fluid muscular pulse sent out from the body-centre and delivered VIA the leg/foot.
Is this like a thrust at all? Is the target going to stop their forward momentum?
What is the target?
2Green wrote:I'm not bending my knee as I lift the foot, because that would sweep my foot back.
2Green wrote:BTW, in attempting to learn this I have cracked my partners several times in the jewels just getting my foot up to them! The reason is that I am no longer "chambering" the foot, and their jewels are in my way as I get my foot onto their body. Too bad, eh?!
This sounds like jam city here.
I personally would never ever lift my leg straight up. In WCK the leg is not chambered per se but the knee is bent and fires on the way out, but then again we like leg to leg contact...
What range is the kick used in and is there any footwork used?
Have you seen it used on someone in sparring who is moving and jamming?
2Green wrote:I'm just lifting, planting and Fajin'ing!
If the lift motion is not part of the FIRE 'action' then there appears to be two parts to the move, as opposed to a single snap or thrust which would seem to use more time... Is there no way to put the whole movement together so that it can be faster and more economical?
2Green wrote:Sorry I can't post pictures, but what good would they be anyway?
Well I’d like for someone to try it on me ideally...
But with a pic or pics we could see the mechanics and how the move uses distance among many other things, even better in video and still better in person...
2Green wrote:QUESTION FOR JIM HAWKINS:
I know in Wing Chun you employ techniques where you "stick to" the opponent. Do you have any strikes that are done from the "stuck-to" (sorry!) position -- where you are ALREADY in contact with the opponent and deliver a "no-inch" strike?
I do appreciate the idea you are discussing here but this is a worst case scenario in WCK.. Fajing or no fajing the more distance you have to generate power the more damage you can do (unless you have really strong chi)
and major damage is going to require a bit more power most of the time.
Yes, if there is no distance we do and can use a no inch punch or palm. Done under the chin you might be able to get away with it especially if you use a half clinch with the other hand. But to other less weak parts of the body, depending on the person we only expect to buy time with such a no inch strike, stunning, and into the center of gravity to steal balance and buy that half second needed to convert into closer range elbow fajing or what have you.
Now there are kicks like the 'stomp' kick where you place the foot on the side or rear side of the leg and then stomp or a cross step jam that places the foot in the air to jam; But this kick you describe, I can’t really fathom it’s application.