John,
I'm wondering if you've read up on the American Loyalists in the Revolution.
Did they form their own units from their local areas?
I discovered an ancestor family member who was in the Kings Carolina Rangers and was wondering if he was from that area, Carolina.
Haven't visited the library but there doesn't seem to be too much info online.
F.
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To the best of knowledge they did form separate units.
I have read 'about' several such but I am not as familiar with the units as I should be.
I will do a bit of research and flesh this thread out.
Jt
I have read 'about' several such but I am not as familiar with the units as I should be.
I will do a bit of research and flesh this thread out.
Jt
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HI Fred:
Between 1740 and 1793 there were between 44 and 124 Regiments in the British Army. I have a complete list, but information on how each was raised is not complete.
Also "English" Ranger units such as Rogers' Rangers may have been disbanded after the French and Indian War, or simply faded out of service at the time of the revolution.
My source is "King George's Army 1740-1793".
(Osprey-Stuart Reid and Paul Chappel)
As to units raised in North America, the following comment is made therein:
"Indepent Companies were scattered throughout the colonies in the 1740'w in order to stiffen locally raised Militia. Normally they were employed in areas where it would be both militarily and economically impractical to deploy complete battalions".
Obviously this does not completely answer our question.
Several other Osprey Publications cover the British Army in North America are cited, and I do Not have them.
Osprey has a website.
I will get back to you shortly.
JT
Between 1740 and 1793 there were between 44 and 124 Regiments in the British Army. I have a complete list, but information on how each was raised is not complete.
Also "English" Ranger units such as Rogers' Rangers may have been disbanded after the French and Indian War, or simply faded out of service at the time of the revolution.
My source is "King George's Army 1740-1793".
(Osprey-Stuart Reid and Paul Chappel)
As to units raised in North America, the following comment is made therein:
"Indepent Companies were scattered throughout the colonies in the 1740'w in order to stiffen locally raised Militia. Normally they were employed in areas where it would be both militarily and economically impractical to deploy complete battalions".
Obviously this does not completely answer our question.
Several other Osprey Publications cover the British Army in North America are cited, and I do Not have them.
Osprey has a website.
I will get back to you shortly.
JT
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Hi John.
The Kings Carolina Raiders had been formally known as the East Florida Rangers.
They were put together and controlled by the Governor of East Florida.
Florida at that time was divided into two colonies.
The British had just defeated the Spanish and taken control in 1763 of Florida.
The East Florida Rangers fought extensively in the Georgia area as the American Patriots didn't do well that far south.
The East Florida Rangers (later the Kings Carolina Rangers) were a mixed group with Seminole and other tribes and blacks fighting alongside them.
Unfortunately after the Revolution Florida was returned to Spain who helped toward the end of the revolution.
The Loyalists fled to Nova Scotia and other British areas.
With the shirts on their back and little else.
My ancestor was given 200 acres in County Harbor Nova Scotia for his services to the King. I have 2 other ancestors who I also believe to be Loyalists one a Captain.
One has to remember down south there was no Tea Party, Boston Massacre or other problems. They felt Loyalty towards the crown and were loyal subjects.
Pretty good website for the Georgia part of the Revolution, which you don't hear much about.
http://www.ourgeorgiahistory.com/wars/R ... ion09.html
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The Kings Carolina Raiders had been formally known as the East Florida Rangers.
They were put together and controlled by the Governor of East Florida.
Florida at that time was divided into two colonies.
The British had just defeated the Spanish and taken control in 1763 of Florida.
The East Florida Rangers fought extensively in the Georgia area as the American Patriots didn't do well that far south.
The East Florida Rangers (later the Kings Carolina Rangers) were a mixed group with Seminole and other tribes and blacks fighting alongside them.
Unfortunately after the Revolution Florida was returned to Spain who helped toward the end of the revolution.
The Loyalists fled to Nova Scotia and other British areas.
With the shirts on their back and little else.
My ancestor was given 200 acres in County Harbor Nova Scotia for his services to the King. I have 2 other ancestors who I also believe to be Loyalists one a Captain.
One has to remember down south there was no Tea Party, Boston Massacre or other problems. They felt Loyalty towards the crown and were loyal subjects.
Pretty good website for the Georgia part of the Revolution, which you don't hear much about.
http://www.ourgeorgiahistory.com/wars/R ... ion09.html
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Rogers was a Lieutenant Colonel with the Queens America Rangers.
He was a Captain during the French and Indian wars and they were called Rogers Rangers but probably unofficially.
But he was there also John.
Not sure where during the Revolution.
F.
He was a Captain during the French and Indian wars and they were called Rogers Rangers but probably unofficially.
But he was there also John.
Not sure where during the Revolution.
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Hi Fred sorry for tje ;onmg delay.
I could find only one reference to a regiment called "the King's Royal Americans" which was sti;; serving in Sir Arthur Wellesley's Army in Spain during the Peninsular Campaign.
This would pur the time Frame about 1803.
Therefore it is possible that the regiment may have remained until Waterloo.
I am still researching.
Wellesley's Army could not have been effective without its many foreign components and the recruiting of excellent soldiers from Ireland.
The Scots were Wellesleys' Shock Troops" at Seringitapam during the earliar war against the Mahrattas in India and the Siege of Gwaligur (an impossible mountain fortress.). In both cases Wellesley ended the matter by choosing 'the escalade' instead of a drawn out siege.
Also notable as Wellesley's impromptu 'enforcement regiment' so to speak was the KGL or King's German Legion.
As an aside from another century the motto of Le Chevalier Bayard was "Le Chevalier Sans Peur et Sans Reproche".
Your Motto brought him to mind.
I could find only one reference to a regiment called "the King's Royal Americans" which was sti;; serving in Sir Arthur Wellesley's Army in Spain during the Peninsular Campaign.
This would pur the time Frame about 1803.
Therefore it is possible that the regiment may have remained until Waterloo.
I am still researching.
Wellesley's Army could not have been effective without its many foreign components and the recruiting of excellent soldiers from Ireland.
The Scots were Wellesleys' Shock Troops" at Seringitapam during the earliar war against the Mahrattas in India and the Siege of Gwaligur (an impossible mountain fortress.). In both cases Wellesley ended the matter by choosing 'the escalade' instead of a drawn out siege.
Also notable as Wellesley's impromptu 'enforcement regiment' so to speak was the KGL or King's German Legion.
As an aside from another century the motto of Le Chevalier Bayard was "Le Chevalier Sans Peur et Sans Reproche".
Your Motto brought him to mind.
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That quote is from my great grandfathers Scottish army unit in WWI.
He died during the war when my grandmother was a "wee lass".
F.
He died during the war when my grandmother was a "wee lass".
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