Hi George , any information on who the opponent is ? , style wise or lineage ?
good clip !!
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I presume you're talking about the Chinese gentleman who is doing a modified kotekitae with GEM.
This kind of loose, relaxed, circular pattern is something you see both in Southern Chinese arts (like southern mantis or wing chun) and even in FMA. I've really enjoyed doing the flow drills Raffi teaches when he visits us. They have that very nice loose, fast, flowing feel to them, and they are used as a skeleton for spontaneous embellishments.
It is neat stuff.
This way of viewing our kotekitae is IMO a lot more interesting than the smash and bash version that so many of our Uechi bretheren like to do. I like playing with the drill like this, developing different cadences and seeing what can be done with it. And don't you find it interesting that there is no step forward and back in the film as in the "official Uechi Ryu" kotekitae? It makes you wonder...
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This kind of loose, relaxed, circular pattern is something you see both in Southern Chinese arts (like southern mantis or wing chun) and even in FMA. I've really enjoyed doing the flow drills Raffi teaches when he visits us. They have that very nice loose, fast, flowing feel to them, and they are used as a skeleton for spontaneous embellishments.
It is neat stuff.
This way of viewing our kotekitae is IMO a lot more interesting than the smash and bash version that so many of our Uechi bretheren like to do. I like playing with the drill like this, developing different cadences and seeing what can be done with it. And don't you find it interesting that there is no step forward and back in the film as in the "official Uechi Ryu" kotekitae? It makes you wonder...
- Bill
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Stryke
Bill I couldnt agree more , I do many variations and this is pretty cool just from seeing George have a play , and compare where the drills could go .
I`m pretty much at a point where I`ve extrapolated Sanchin and Kotikitae into a full group of such drills , after comparing them with many similar sister arts and there methods .
Just curious in the style that was sharing in the clip .
the combination of flow drills and pushhands sets up some very interesting offensive/defensive paradigms .
couldnt agree more on the step thing , and not for the usual reasons either , sometimes a step for changing sides but not really IMHO .
the beauty of these drills is when the footwork(and even the pattern) become spontaneous .
I`m pretty much at a point where I`ve extrapolated Sanchin and Kotikitae into a full group of such drills , after comparing them with many similar sister arts and there methods .
Just curious in the style that was sharing in the clip .
the combination of flow drills and pushhands sets up some very interesting offensive/defensive paradigms .
couldnt agree more on the step thing , and not for the usual reasons either , sometimes a step for changing sides but not really IMHO .
the beauty of these drills is when the footwork(and even the pattern) become spontaneous .
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missed this...
The Sifu I was doing the drill with was Zhang Tian Ci. He was also with the first China delegation I brought to USA for the 1984 SummerFest on Thompson's Island.
Sifu Ci is reputed to be a relative of Shushiwa. Although there is a resemblance to Uechi-ryu, what he was doing had "evolved" into a system that bore little resemblance to what we "preserved" in our time capsule system practiced today.
Of course, the Chinese don't treat the techniques and sets as so important. Lots of paths to a destination. As mentioned by me many times before... The Chinese were both amazed and amused at our attempts to discover the original "techniques" as though it was possible to find someone who was still doing what what his ancestors were doing a hundred years ago and we were now doing.
I wrote about this phenomenon for Bugesha magazine and posted a link somewhere on Uechi-ryu.com.
Sifu Ci is reputed to be a relative of Shushiwa. Although there is a resemblance to Uechi-ryu, what he was doing had "evolved" into a system that bore little resemblance to what we "preserved" in our time capsule system practiced today.
Of course, the Chinese don't treat the techniques and sets as so important. Lots of paths to a destination. As mentioned by me many times before... The Chinese were both amazed and amused at our attempts to discover the original "techniques" as though it was possible to find someone who was still doing what what his ancestors were doing a hundred years ago and we were now doing.
I wrote about this phenomenon for Bugesha magazine and posted a link somewhere on Uechi-ryu.com.
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Did anyone notice the other people there?
Kanei Uechi and Ryuko Tomoyose are shown early on.
The very tall dude is Marty Dow. Marty lived in Northern Virginia for quite some time. He may still be up there, but has preferred his anonymity of recent.
Marty studied with Seiyu Shinjo. He had a talent for languages that I've never seen before and haven't seen since then. He was in the Navy for a while, and must have been in some special programs where he picked up a number of Asian languages. Once in the latter 1970s, Marty, Dave Finkelstein and I went to a "Chinese" restaurant in New York. As is usually the case, a Chinese or Japanese restaurant will hire any Asian to give the right "ethnic" look. Marty had a few drinks, and suddenly started singing melodramatic opera, sort of like A Night at the Opera from Queen. Only what Marty was doing was switching from language to laguage as he was singing. He did Mandarin, then Korean, and then Vietnamese (among others). As he hit a particular language, someone in the restaurant would stop in their tracks, and their jaw would drop. Dave Finkelstein speaks both Mandarin and Japanese, and was laughing hysterically through Marty's whole impromptu balad.
Later on in the latter 1980s, Marty came to visit my dojo when Jim Thompson was there. I had a fellow from Bejing China (Yining "Billy" Wang) who lived with me while getting a graduate degree in chemical engineering. Marty went up to him and started speaking. Billy stopped in his tracks and started laughing. "Bill, he speaks without an accent!"
What a talent!
George and company were lucky to have a fellow such as Marty follow them to China on their trip. Marty would leave the main crowd at times, and start casually interviewing people in the town or in a crowd near the various venues. Marty found out quite a few important facts about our system (or what remained of it) while doing this. To make a long story short, there were people who were aware of the martial art that George, Tommy, and Kanei were doing, but there wasn't much interest in doing a lot of talking due to "politics." Even today information doesn't flow very freely in China, what with a Communist political officer hovering over most foreigners who visit in rural areas.
- Bill
Kanei Uechi and Ryuko Tomoyose are shown early on.
The very tall dude is Marty Dow. Marty lived in Northern Virginia for quite some time. He may still be up there, but has preferred his anonymity of recent.
Marty studied with Seiyu Shinjo. He had a talent for languages that I've never seen before and haven't seen since then. He was in the Navy for a while, and must have been in some special programs where he picked up a number of Asian languages. Once in the latter 1970s, Marty, Dave Finkelstein and I went to a "Chinese" restaurant in New York. As is usually the case, a Chinese or Japanese restaurant will hire any Asian to give the right "ethnic" look. Marty had a few drinks, and suddenly started singing melodramatic opera, sort of like A Night at the Opera from Queen. Only what Marty was doing was switching from language to laguage as he was singing. He did Mandarin, then Korean, and then Vietnamese (among others). As he hit a particular language, someone in the restaurant would stop in their tracks, and their jaw would drop. Dave Finkelstein speaks both Mandarin and Japanese, and was laughing hysterically through Marty's whole impromptu balad.
Later on in the latter 1980s, Marty came to visit my dojo when Jim Thompson was there. I had a fellow from Bejing China (Yining "Billy" Wang) who lived with me while getting a graduate degree in chemical engineering. Marty went up to him and started speaking. Billy stopped in his tracks and started laughing. "Bill, he speaks without an accent!"
What a talent!
George and company were lucky to have a fellow such as Marty follow them to China on their trip. Marty would leave the main crowd at times, and start casually interviewing people in the town or in a crowd near the various venues. Marty found out quite a few important facts about our system (or what remained of it) while doing this. To make a long story short, there were people who were aware of the martial art that George, Tommy, and Kanei were doing, but there wasn't much interest in doing a lot of talking due to "politics." Even today information doesn't flow very freely in China, what with a Communist political officer hovering over most foreigners who visit in rural areas.
- Bill
