So you don't think there are a-holes, jerks and show-offs at the gym? Are you saying that there aren't people at the gym who annoy others by going out of their way to grunt loudly to draw everyone's attention? I'm not saying that anyone who ever grunts is a problem. Just that disruptively loud grunting is a way that some people make a nuisance of themselves.Bill Glasheen wrote: It's like the "stupid" argument going on in another thread on Thurston's forum. All your pejoratives (A-holes, jerks, show-offs, etc.) are highly judgemental.
How about because grunting comes naturally? Or because pain (which accompanies getting out of chairs when you're elderly) often causes verbal reactions. I'll say it again because I want it to be clear. In general, there's nothing wrong with grunting. But it's not as unavoidable as you're making it out to be. I have certainly exerted myself before, and I've certainly grunted in the process. I've also been in situations where I have exerted myself and chosen not to grunt. It's really not that hard. Why should you ever not grunt? Out of consideration for others.If over time you choose to train with extreme intensity, I guarantee that one day you will grunt.
Old people grunt when they get out of a chair, or get back up after reaching down for something. Why? (Go back to my physiologic explanations.)
As for lifting myself, I've tried to get into it a few times, but I find it excruciatingly dull. I've never been at all interested in exercise that wasn't a bi-product of some other activity (Karate, basketball, frisbee, dance, etc) that I find inherently interesting. Different strokes.
I'll do this at home, I don't think my co-workers would appreciate my experiment. I've taken voice lessons, sung in choruses and been in musicals. The act of singing is not totally foreign to me. My experience from singing in choruses and musicals is that it's only very slightly harder to exhale while singing a note. What's hard is using a small volume of air to make a lot of noise. You can exhale very quickly while singing a note if you don't mind being loud. In fact, one thing they teach you is how NOT to run out of breath quickly while singing loudly.Take a deep breath and then breathe out, Justin. Then do the same, only while singing a note.
You have used both words several times. Instead of referring me to a dictionary, why not actually address the question? Previously I've used the word discrimination and you've said that there's nothing wrong with being choosy. Now I'm wondering how you're apply the word in this context. I certainly know the definition of it.There's a difference between being discriminatory and engaging in discrimination. Check out your dictionary.
Discrimination of the kind I would take political note of is the sort where you exclude someone based on a trait unrelated to the context. E.g. having terrible body odor is a justifiable reason to exclude a person from participating in the weekly sumo match. Excluding all computer programmers because they have a reputation as smelly nerds would be unfair discrimination. In this case, some people find grunting detracts from their workouts, so they forbid that particular activity. It's not a policy that bans all people who might have a tendency to grunt. They can choose not to grunt while on the premises.It's an intellectual curiosity, Justin, and something which I thought would appeal to your own political sensibilities.
Joking joking.
