Seizan, Thankyou very much for your answer.
Are the 5 additional katas a required practice in UechiRyu Zankai ?
Muchas gracias,
Diego
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Mike-san,MikeK wrote:Seizan,
What would be an example of how they were done old style vs new style?
In a nutshell, most differences in technique can be seen in Toyama Sensei's performance of Sandairyu. This is why it's the only kata he'll do in public - he feels it best represents the technical system.
Regards,
Seizan
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Bill Glasheen
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Seizan
I've been busy on a business trip to Boston. Three intensive days of work with evenings taken out for business "socialization." I've been peeking at this thread as it has unravled, and have enjoyed your commentary.
It's a real treat to watch Toyama Sensei. You can tell he loves what he does. What's even more compelling (to me) about this thread are the clips of Kiyohide and Narahiro Senseis juxtaposed with Toyama Sensei. Here we have 3 different ages, attitudes, and body types, and thus three different manifestations of the style. And yet all seem to appreciate each other and where they are on their respective journeys.
As they say on the MasterCard commecials here, "Priceless!"
- Bill
I've been busy on a business trip to Boston. Three intensive days of work with evenings taken out for business "socialization." I've been peeking at this thread as it has unravled, and have enjoyed your commentary.
It's a real treat to watch Toyama Sensei. You can tell he loves what he does. What's even more compelling (to me) about this thread are the clips of Kiyohide and Narahiro Senseis juxtaposed with Toyama Sensei. Here we have 3 different ages, attitudes, and body types, and thus three different manifestations of the style. And yet all seem to appreciate each other and where they are on their respective journeys.
As they say on the MasterCard commecials here, "Priceless!"
- Bill
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Diremind
One thing that amazes me about Toyama Sensei is his unbelievable muscle control of his traps (and everything else for that matter). He can raise each side independent of the other and lock it into place. I was wondering if anybody else knows of ways to develop this. I've been told to just push the shoulders down and practice with kami jars daily, but I don't get near the response. Any help is appreciated.
-Ross
-Ross
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Bill Glasheen
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Ross
Can you make it to our seminar March 17th with Raffi? I can show you some tricks here.
Part of it is genetic, and part of it is training.
The most direct way to train the traps is with shoulder shrugs. That isolates the trapezius muscles so you are working them by their lonesome.
You work the traps when doing the kami (jar) training. Why? Well... in order to keep from having the jars pull your arms out of the shoulder sockets, you will naturally engage the traps. This then uses those muscles in conjunction with other muscles to stabilize the shoulder joints.
Another way to work the traps is to do power cleans. This is a more advanced weight exercise. It's beyond doing the foo foo machines, and even beyond free weights. These Olympic style lifts are about power development and whole-body coordination. When exploding up while grabbing the bar, the last thing you will do before jumping under the bar is to lift the shoulders up. That then directly involves work with the traps.
My recommendation is to do whole-body exercises like the jars or power cleans rather than isolation work. The body tends to respond better to exercises that use more muscles - especially when you involve the large muscle groups. When I say respond, I mean the anabolic processes like release of testosterone and growth hormone after training. This is of course assuming you don't overtrain. Another benefit of whole-body exercises is that their benefit translates more directly to physical endeavors. Isolation work can't teach you how to use the muscles in a synergistic fashion (sometimes called essential synergy). The whole body exercises on the other hand are very good at doing that.
One final note... The shoulder rolling is what it is.
It has some use in terms of creating the external shield, and even a side benefit in grappling or ukemi when trying to protect the shoulder joint.
But it's also part show. Picture a peacock fanning its feathers, a lion showing its mane, various reptiles displaying membranes around their faces, etc. It's part of "the look."
Bodybuilders work a lot on that posture. I'm somewhat familar with that because my spouse used to compete in bodybuilding.
- Bill
Can you make it to our seminar March 17th with Raffi? I can show you some tricks here.
Part of it is genetic, and part of it is training.
The most direct way to train the traps is with shoulder shrugs. That isolates the trapezius muscles so you are working them by their lonesome.
You work the traps when doing the kami (jar) training. Why? Well... in order to keep from having the jars pull your arms out of the shoulder sockets, you will naturally engage the traps. This then uses those muscles in conjunction with other muscles to stabilize the shoulder joints.
Another way to work the traps is to do power cleans. This is a more advanced weight exercise. It's beyond doing the foo foo machines, and even beyond free weights. These Olympic style lifts are about power development and whole-body coordination. When exploding up while grabbing the bar, the last thing you will do before jumping under the bar is to lift the shoulders up. That then directly involves work with the traps.
My recommendation is to do whole-body exercises like the jars or power cleans rather than isolation work. The body tends to respond better to exercises that use more muscles - especially when you involve the large muscle groups. When I say respond, I mean the anabolic processes like release of testosterone and growth hormone after training. This is of course assuming you don't overtrain. Another benefit of whole-body exercises is that their benefit translates more directly to physical endeavors. Isolation work can't teach you how to use the muscles in a synergistic fashion (sometimes called essential synergy). The whole body exercises on the other hand are very good at doing that.
One final note... The shoulder rolling is what it is.
It has some use in terms of creating the external shield, and even a side benefit in grappling or ukemi when trying to protect the shoulder joint.
But it's also part show. Picture a peacock fanning its feathers, a lion showing its mane, various reptiles displaying membranes around their faces, etc. It's part of "the look."
Bodybuilders work a lot on that posture. I'm somewhat familar with that because my spouse used to compete in bodybuilding.- Bill
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Diremind
Bill,
I'll definitely be at the seminar. It sounds like a good opportunity and I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully I can get a couple of my students to come along as well. Thanks for the explanation on the traps. I especially like your idea about whole body excercises vs. isolation work. Makes perfect sense.
-Ross
I'll definitely be at the seminar. It sounds like a good opportunity and I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully I can get a couple of my students to come along as well. Thanks for the explanation on the traps. I especially like your idea about whole body excercises vs. isolation work. Makes perfect sense.
-Ross
