Enjoying my bruises and glad to be adding some ground competence to my Uechi stuff. I will say it's much easier to approach takedowns without a vertical to near vertical sanchin spine as your frame of reference... anyone else experimenting?
So Who's Doing Jiujitsu?
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So Who's Doing Jiujitsu?
I just started 2 weeks ago, having found a school that meets 3x a week, only a few blocks from home, with a good instructor and a class of only 5-6 good people. It's based on the gi, but I figure I'm not often at the beach and people are going to have some clothes, and after some time we're to get some no gi adaptations. We learn something new each class then get to rumble at the end, which is getting more interesting by the day as we learn new skills. Yesterday that meant passing guard and defending with several sweeps and escapes, maintaining and escaping side control, resisting and obtaining a mount, trying and defending two arm bars, the guillotine, a basic choke, and the americana shoulder lock... quite a workout. I threw in some techniques I picked up from Gracie DVDs and had an extended, matched struggle with someone that highlighted how much I've learned (at least in passing) since the instructor toyed with us on day 1. Even employed some uechi when a larger and stronger opponent decided to resist my choke from full guard by forearm pressure on my throat--two can play that game, and one of them can use shoken pressure, it turned out
Enjoying my bruises and glad to be adding some ground competence to my Uechi stuff. I will say it's much easier to approach takedowns without a vertical to near vertical sanchin spine as your frame of reference... anyone else experimenting?
Enjoying my bruises and glad to be adding some ground competence to my Uechi stuff. I will say it's much easier to approach takedowns without a vertical to near vertical sanchin spine as your frame of reference... anyone else experimenting?
--Ian
Yea, good stuff. I worked out with a BJJ group for about a year, then decided that I liked my joints and gave it up.
Next time he cranks on your neck with a forearm from full guard, push up with your hips to loosen the arm, push it to the side of your neck so that his upper arm is between your neck and his, and then wrap your arms around his neck (ideally with your wrist or forearm across the opposite jugular and carotid), and crank down. Nothing like choking someone out with their own arm...
Hope all is well out in SD!
-Mike
Next time he cranks on your neck with a forearm from full guard, push up with your hips to loosen the arm, push it to the side of your neck so that his upper arm is between your neck and his, and then wrap your arms around his neck (ideally with your wrist or forearm across the opposite jugular and carotid), and crank down. Nothing like choking someone out with their own arm...
Hope all is well out in SD!
-Mike
Sounds good... well, tonight, my own PARTNER basically punched me in the throat to enable a guard pass and then kicked me in the face then halfcrushed my trachea trying to secure an arm bar. My lips are mushed and we had to have a talk about sportsmanship in noncompetitive practice. I may have created a monster.
--Ian
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Bill Glasheen
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I would have loved to do lots of this BJJ as a younger lad. As it is, I pick and choose these competitive venues very thoughtfully.
When I was younger, aikido with a Goju guy who came from special forces was my view of this venue. Jiujitsu of course is the antecedent to aikido. I did plenty slamming around and got to be slammed. I got a shoulder separation, tore someone's knee (accidentally), broke an arm (accidentally), etc. We were in a mixed group of dans doing cross training, and none of us knew how to take it easy.
When I decided to do aikido in Maryland with Clyde Takaguchi's group, I was thankful for my karate base. Whenever some A-hole thought he was going to take out his frustrations on me, I always had a few tricks up my sleeve that stopped things dead in their tracks. It only took a few times to get respect... Most of course were good, and had a lot to teach me.
Come to camp and work with Joe Pomfret, Ian. Even I get in there and allow myself to get my butt whooped by Joe. Fun stuff...
For martial arts in general, I've never been afraid to work with the very best. I'm never fearful of sparring champions, ring fighters, etc., etc. It's the insecure A-hole with a chip on the shoulder that you need to break bad with to preserve your health. It's always good to have that ability - and the will to use it when necessary - in your back pocket.
- Bill
When I was younger, aikido with a Goju guy who came from special forces was my view of this venue. Jiujitsu of course is the antecedent to aikido. I did plenty slamming around and got to be slammed. I got a shoulder separation, tore someone's knee (accidentally), broke an arm (accidentally), etc. We were in a mixed group of dans doing cross training, and none of us knew how to take it easy.
When I decided to do aikido in Maryland with Clyde Takaguchi's group, I was thankful for my karate base. Whenever some A-hole thought he was going to take out his frustrations on me, I always had a few tricks up my sleeve that stopped things dead in their tracks. It only took a few times to get respect...
Most of course were good, and had a lot to teach me.Come to camp and work with Joe Pomfret, Ian. Even I get in there and allow myself to get my butt whooped by Joe. Fun stuff...
For martial arts in general, I've never been afraid to work with the very best. I'm never fearful of sparring champions, ring fighters, etc., etc. It's the insecure A-hole with a chip on the shoulder that you need to break bad with to preserve your health. It's always good to have that ability - and the will to use it when necessary - in your back pocket.
- Bill
Well, i certainly don't want to get busted up. My rotator cuff injury is newly healed, for one. But this group is small and cohesive, and competitive but not excessive. We're also mostly new. We don't do throws from standing, everything starts at knees, except for a practice escape from headlock we did, and we do arm bars slowly. Most of the work is practice and little is free form at the moment. My safety concern is that the instructor hasn't taught people how to fall and they might reach for the ground. I tried to bring this up as a hint but he said you can't slap out of a double leg like you can a O soto gari. True, but unrelated; you can learn not to break your forearm or tear out your shoulder by not reaching for the ground. Luckily I have no issues falling, as Bill knows, I can do it on wood; a mat is cake.
--Ian
Rick has significant Judo/juijutsu experience, as well as some BJJ.
Thus we do groundwork in class.
Laird is currently taking BJJ, and helped me refine my Omo-plata.
You know though, unfortunatly, i find myself in the gaurd way too much. I really have to fix that, i dont like being on my back, especially the guard, since it looks so freaking weird to people who dont know much about ground work.
Thus we do groundwork in class.
Laird is currently taking BJJ, and helped me refine my Omo-plata.
You know though, unfortunatly, i find myself in the gaurd way too much. I really have to fix that, i dont like being on my back, especially the guard, since it looks so freaking weird to people who dont know much about ground work.
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Rick Wilson
Rick Wilson wrote:Correction on Adam’s statement: I have only a “little” Judo and Jujitsu in my background as a kid and I have no formal BJJ only seminars, tapes and books etc but we do work grappling and ground a lot.
All part of our Uechi.
Oops
Could've fooled me! You looked good rolling with kevin!
