why are you discussing kata on this forum and not on Van's, Bill's or Dana's?
Don't know who they are.
So after a little research I see your pattern once again take shape. You even use the exact same phrases when someone challenges what you write.
I enjoy discussion, just can't stand people who can't argue their point without getting nasty.
What is it about you that ticks people off?
Only ones I tick off are the ones that aren't used to someone standing their ground with a view point. The ones that don't know how to converse in a polite manner on points of disagreement.
Was that when you were a hachidan in Pangainoon or after you gave up that rank?
Where's the 10th you were talking about?
Was your careful research reading Ian Abernathy's web site?
Part of it. In addition to two of his books and a DVD. Also there was GM Matson's book on Uechi, Alan Dollar's fine work. Also Lawrence Cane and Chris Wilder's books which I have. Then there are discussions with two of my former instructors as well as other martial artists in various arts.
No the problem with it is it leaves your face open, and your arm up in the air in a weak position. It could work but I wouldn't bet my life on it.
Don't have a clue what your talking about? The whole side of the head is covered with one arm i.e. reverse elbow spike/wing. And your assuming what, the other arm is hanging down at the side?
I'm gonna take a deep breath here. I'm gonna go on the assumption that I'm not explaining this in a way that your understanding. Perhpaps if we were face to face talking about it over tea it may make more sense. Let me try this again and see if this thread can be salvaged/turned around to get back on topic rather than a pissing contest between you and I.
Kata are examples of principles more than anything. Using my example from Pinan Shodan, the opening movement is demonstrating the principle of a shoulder lock. There is nothing mystic or hidden about it. It is a standard shoulder lock, a lock/balance displacement to injure/off balance an attacker. Locking the shoulder in the fashion demonstrated by the kata can be achieved by a multitude of entries, from multiple angles and even using the legs while on the ground. A kata, any kata would be impossibly long to show each and every possible technique for a shoulder lock. Would you agree with that? So instead, the principle of a shoulder lock is demonstrated. Again, the entry I described is but one, and it is effective.
If I have failed to describe the entry properly, or in enough detail so as to give a full picture then that is my bad. I'll accept the blame for that. It isnt' always easy to describe dynamic, flowing movements with the written word so as to have the reader follow it through.
Now I will say this to you Mike, I didn't appreciate the way you entered into this thread. Nor did I appreciate the tone I felt you had in many of your posts. However, rather than this go back and forth I'd rather see it get back on track. So if I've done anything to 'tick' you off, you have my apology. Do you want to discuss the topic of this thread in polite conversation? If so, what have I posted that isn't clear or doesn't make sense to you?