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fivedragons wrote:Since this is the tough issues forum, I thought I would just throw this out into the ether, to chum the ocean so to speak.
In my opinion, the Roman Catholic Church is the most blasphemous, evil, hippocritical, and indeed satanic institution in the history of the world.
Terms like blasphemous and satanic only really apply if one believes in the basic tenets of the bible, that the church was supposedly founded on.
In other words, one wouldn't be likely to call something "satanic" unless one understood the meaning of the word in the context that has been communicated in the bible and various christian theologies.
fivedragons wrote:Electing someone to the head of a statehood, who is proclaimed to be the voice of god.
Deleting and changing the ten commandments under the authority of the replacement christ, I mean the pope.
Selling indulgences. God for money.
Excommunication. How can a man cut you off from the source of life?
Masquerading as a spiritual institution in order amass power and control over the people of the world. It's not a spiritual institution, although many of it's members might be spiritual people. It's a state.
Persecuting countless people who found a personal relationship with christ/god, who didn't follow the rules of the new god, I mean the pope.
Causing their followers to call on an assortment of entities for intercession, rather than god in man.
Causing man to view himself as a sinful being who needs to renounce his creation, by the god who made him in his image.
I'm not a theologist and I can't quote the bible. I've also never belonged to a religion, but I've read some of the bible, participated in various religious ceremonies of different kinds, and have thought a bit about the nature of religion over the years, it being a pervasive aspect of societal thought.
The Nazis were very small fry in the grand scheme, Justin. And they weren't insidious in the least. Satan, as described in the bible is very cunning.
There is no such thing as a spiritual institution. The very thought is mind boggling. What the hell is a spiritual institution? It's an oxymoron.
Dale Houser wrote:I'm not a theologist and I can't quote the bible. I've also never belonged to a religion, but I've read some of the bible, participated in various religious ceremonies of different kinds, and have thought a bit about the nature of religion over the years, it being a pervasive aspect of societal thought.
Like anything, you really need to make a good attempt at studying/researching anything before making generalizations. From what you say here, you essentially know little about RC theology but then make sweeping assumptions. Roman Catholic, like Eastern Orthodox, theology is actually very humble and peaceful. BTW, I am not Roman Catholic. Also, be careful, 99% of Massachusetts is Roman Catholic.
What it all boils down to is people are imperfect and have and will commit crimes and atrocities in the name of religion or ideology. This imperfection is something all Christian denominations admit and try to rectify. And the RC Church is nothing compared to pre-and non-Judeo/Christian civilizations. Though this does not defend what has been done in the name of the Roman Catholic or any other church.
You may want to brush up on some Christian theology and history to see the difference between theology and the people who attempt to live by it. All major religions seek similar goals: Islam - submission to God, Buddhism - Enlightenment, Christianity - coming to living communion with God. And they are peaceful, except maybe for Islam - the Koran can be scary reading. I'm still not sure about it.
Anyway, try the following link for both RC and simple, non-RC theological explanations, there are plenty more detailed sites as well. This'll open a new can of worms for you.
Cheers and Merry Christmas!
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