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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:24 pm 
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This is a very interesting read. I was actually thinking of the many problems outlined here as well, the other day.

http://www.closequarterscombat.com/blog ... -movement/

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Body and head lice outbreaks…

Human waste so bad that concerns have been raised about the public health hazard it represents…

Sexual assaults so rampant that special “female only” tents have been set up to cut the risk of rape….

Fliers circulated asking when it is appropriate to murder police and those in authority…

Widespread theft…

The weak, the elderly, and the infirm knocked down and trampled by angry, chanting mobs…

Sound like a refugee camp following Hurricane Katrina?

Nope! In fact, it’s not a natural disaster at all.

It’s a snapshot of the soft underbelly of the “Occupy Wall Street” protest and the many other cities where the “Occupy” movement has spread!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:25 pm 
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Occupy Wall Street: Violence Unchecked

The politics involved don’t matter.

From an urban survival perspective, the reasons for a political demonstration aren’t important.

The fact is that the “Occupy” movement has become very popular in the United States, and with its popularity has come the very real danger of mob violence.

This is the danger, the imminent threat, of an outbreak of social chaos.

We have – in the rapes and the threats of murder; in the chanting and the calls for violent “justice” – seen the first signs of what could at any moment, in any of these “occupied” cities, become a deadly riot.

Media coverage of these events has, in many cases, glossed over the violence or ignored it completely.

And there’s something else they’re not reporting (or not even aware of)…

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:27 pm 
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The Hidden Danger Of The “Occupy” Movement
You Must Know About

During one Occupy protest, a man desperate to extricate himself from one of the “occupy” mobs gunned his car’s engine and ran someone down.

It happened after a protestor started beating on the hood of his car.

The driver knew that at any moment, that mob could choose to overturn his vehicle.

He decided not to be a victim…

…and now he’ll likely wind up a victim of our court system.

Meanwhile, reporters characterize the “occupy” mobs as “largely peaceful.”

For whatever reason, we’re told that the members of these mobs are just socially conscious liberals who mean no harm and want “social justice.”

Well, most of the protestors probably ARE socially conscious liberals who mean no harm and want “social justice”.

The problem is that in every large crowd of people, especially one on the verge of a riot, there are always scumbag opportunists drawn to the noise and activity of a crowd like that.

They know that when chaos breaks out, they can take advantage of the mayhem, the burning cars, and the inability of police to control a violent turn of events.

These are the people who, during the outbreak of social chaos, become looters, or turn to rape, or simply commit assault and murder for the sheer thrill of it.


These people don’t care about anything other than anarchy — and taking what’s not theirs.

They may even start a riot themselves because they know the social chaos that results will benefit them.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:32 pm 
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http://www.svfreenyc.org/research_factsheet_111.html

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:35 pm 
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. Society

a. The collapse of traditional societal support mechanisms (social sanctions, norms for proper behavior, etc.) when refugees are forced to flee or to live in camp surroundings. In particular, the communal support systems for the protection of vulnerable individuals may no longer be present.

b. Male attitudes of disrespect towards women may be instrumental in causing incidents of sexual violence. For example, within a camp, men may look upon unaccompanied women and girls as common sexual property.

c. Psychological strain on refugee men in not being able to assume normal cultural, social and economic roles, may cause aggressive behavior towards women. Many other aspects of refugee life can aggravate this, including idleness, anger at loss of control and power, uncertainty about the future, and frustration with living conditions.

d. Alcohol and drug abuse can result in violent behavior within families and communities. Such abuse is often linked to boredom. depression and stress.

2. Vulnerability

a. Females who are on their own for whatever reason, whether they are single, widowed, abandoned, unaccompanied minors, lone heads of households, or women who have been separated from male family members by the chaos of the situation, are all particularly at risk of sexual violence.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:44 pm 
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In it, we show you the equipment you should be carrying with you (at all times!) so that you’re never caught off guard even during a violent riot.

We hand you the cutting edge “escape & evasion” tactics you can use when you’re being chased by an angry mob (and even put you in a scenario to see how you would react).


Can we begin to guess what 'equipment' and what 'escape & evasion' tactics we would need and why?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:46 pm 
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http://www.socialchaossurvivalguide.com/

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:20 pm 
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I'm always a bit skeptical when I see someone hawking something and telling you they have secrets you MUST KNOW. Have you read the contents of this 'must-have' survival guide, Van?

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A 12-second "man trap" that's capable of taking out multiple attackers!


God, I hope it kills them and doesn't leave witnesses... Talk about liability. Booby traps are always illegal.

One simple rule when it comes to mobs: don't be there. If you end up there, get out of there in whatever direction the mob is NOT going.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:44 pm 
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I am with you Jason on this :)

Yet, in what he writes, there is something to be learned when it comes to 'people packs'...

The smell alone would kill a horse a mile away 8O

And the gratuitous rapes and violence are there/here to stay.

Look at the Katrina lessons. :x

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:22 am 
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Van Canna wrote:
I am with you Jason on this :)

Yet, in what he writes, there is something to be learned when it comes to 'people packs'...

The smell alone would kill a horse a mile away 8O

And the gratuitous rapes and violence are there/here to stay.

Look at the Katrina lessons. :x


Lessons of Katrina:
You have to be careful of the cops when no one is watching. Sure, most of them are good, honest, hard-working folks.. but just like Occupy has its bad eggs, so too will the badges.
When you're told to evacuate, do so... but don't necessarily go in the direction everyone else is going. Make your own evac plans in advance, set aside supplies, and be ready to go when you need to. Setting off on the second day of an evac will have you stuck in place as the mess overtakes you.
Trust but verify, and trust your gut. If something about somebody gives you the willies, put some miles between you.

A note on tear gas:
It *****, but people who have had repeated exposure to the stuff can continue on. Expose as little skin as possible, keep your hands off your face, and be prepared for copious amounts of snot and tears. You'll feel a burning sensation in your eyes and on your skin (eyes first, skin later). Breath slowly, and try not to cough (it only irritates your throat even more to cough). Clean air is the only cure. Wind is best. Spread your arms and put your face in the wind, and keep blinking! Keeping your eyes shut only makes it last longer.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:10 am 
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Good points Jason, thank you. :)

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:59 am 
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Van Canna wrote:
I am with you Jason on this :)

And the gratuitous rapes and violence are there/here to stay.



It's only going to get worse, Van.

Mayhem
The money runs out while the clock ticks.
That many warm bodies in enclosed spaces. Let the good times roll!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:07 pm 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_C ... ut_of_1977

Blackouts are other 'terror events' for most people.

In view of recent storm blackouts along the NE belt...I am reminded of the infamous NY 1977 blackout and how people react.

Where I live we lost power for four days twice within 60 days due to storms that knocked out power lines. [never again for me as I am buying an auto generator]

but people were desperate and on the verge of violence.

Homes were broken into amongs other episodes of violence.

I have one of these that I find as effective as any weapon can be because it will disorient a person with its 900 lumens.


http://www.surefire.com/M6LT?utm_source ... ights_M6LT


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