Valkenar wrote:I disagree that Obama is implying there's no connection between hard work, smarts and success. I think that's a ludicrous accusation. He's simply saying that hard work and smarts by themselves did not create the success.
That's what you WISH he said. This is what he said.
Obama wrote:If you’ve been successful, you didn’t get that on your own. You, you didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think ‘Wow it must be because I was just so smart.’ There are a lot of smart people out there. ‘It must be because I worked harder than everybody else.’ Lemme tell you something; there are a whole bunch of hard workin people out there.
To an adoring partisan audience, he's rationalizing high taxation and the existence of big government. Federal government needs the money because these entrepreneurs CANNOT innovate without the Federal government. God forbid he believe that the federal government exists because of the toil of the movers and shakers, and wouldn't be able to build roads and bridges without them.
Thomas Jefferson wrote:I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it
Valkenar wrote:In the US, we have a society that makes it so that people have a relatively easy time innovating.
... when we can get government the hell out of the way.
Thomas Jefferson wrote:The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits.
Valkenar wrote:The point isn't that lazy people like me need subsidies from hard-working people like you . It's that people who are truly struggling should have a fair chance for their hard work and intelligence to pay off. It's not like it's impossible to climb up if you're poor, but to deny that it's damn hard to escape true poverty is, I think, willfully ignorant.
Well then call my father ignorant, because he arose from poverty in the depression and did pretty well.
Call me ignorant because I told my dad "No thanks" past a point. Like him, I went my own way, worked my way through school (or got loans), and left school with a lot of debt. And now it's paid off, and I have a great credit rating.
Valkenar wrote:Your father sacrificed so that you could go to college. He was also the kind of person that could teach you a work ethic. That's admirable, and you were lucky to have such a father. Now can you really say with a straight face that someone born in south central LA to an unmarried, drug-addicted prostitute has an opportunity equal to yours?
No. And you know why? Because Great Society programs destroyed many such families. They made it easier for pregnant women to stay single, and fathers not to commit. Single moms raising young boys leads with an extremely high probability to the next generation's prison population. Single moms raising young girls leads with an extremely high probability to teenage moms. The cycle of poverty continues.
As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
It took a Democrat (Clinton) to pull off welfare reform. A Republican would have been called mean. And that happened because Gingrich's "Contract with America" Congress forced the legislation on him.
Meanwhile... we have people like Louis Farrakhan telling young men not to depend on "the man" and to take ownership of their lives and their responsibilities. Some call him racist, or criticize him because he's a leader of the Nation of Islam. I think he's an inspirational leader - even if he is at times highly eccentric.
Jill Weber of Penn State wrote:The official purpose of the Million Man March was to "enable and encourage" black men in the United States to "take a greater responsibility and play a greater role in caring for, and uplifting the status of, the Black family." Farrakhan blamed black men for the proliferation of drug use, crime, and fatherlessness within their communities and called upon the men to atone for their sins. In addition to promoting self-enhancement and moral reform within the black community, the march would demonstrate to the nation and the world that black Americans would no longer tolerate racism, inequality, and inaction.
FYI... Farrakhan's son played basketball for UVa. Betcha didn't know that!
Louis Farrakhan wrote:Never exalt people because they're in your family; never exalt people because they're your color; never exalt people because they're your kinfolk. Exalt them because they're worthy.
I leave you with one other quote from the founder of UVa.
Thomas Jefferson wrote:I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious.
This comment he made in the 1700s. It boggles the mind!