Observing individuals

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Re: Observing individuals

Postby jorvik » Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:56 pm

Yeah, he is disgusting
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Re: Observing individuals

Postby Van Canna » Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:32 pm

http://www.walmartcrimereport.com/

This thread is an excellent one and it should receive more input as observing others also tweaks our abilities to 'detect others' observing us in our daily comings and goings, in our cars, in public places and so on.

One of the most potentially dangerous place to be these days is the Walmart stores that seems to attract many unsavory characters.

There have been many cases where shoppers are 'observed' by criminals who then decide if they are easy victims, then stalked into the parking lot and attacked, especially if you go there shopping at night.

We also need to sharpen our skills in detecting some drivers on the road 'observing' us...maybe following us...and develop driving skills to cope with this rising problem...along with our presentation of 'deterrence'...i.e., "Don't even think about it" visual clues.
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Re: Observing individuals

Postby Stryke » Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:21 am

How about learning to read body language

and recongnising pre contact ques

some pre contact ques of the top of my head...

hands going to pockets
distracting gestures and how they talk with hands/bridge
dropping of shoulder and or blading
distracted gazing checking out the surroundings
altered path of walking cutting you or exits off, causing you to walk another way or in close proximity to them or others
lowered centre of gravity

pre contact ques are golden in real situations , all acts begin somewhere , seeing the attack is miles behind the initial action.

observing potential engagement ques before it happens
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Re: Observing individuals

Postby Van Canna » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:34 am

One of the critical aspects of any training we may undertake is the development of a 'Spidey Sense' along with any physical moves and or weapons continuum.

Take this for example
The U.S. Office of Naval Research pointed to sixth sense research about how "humans can detect and act on unique patterns without consciously and intentionally analyzing them." _ It hopes to encourage such intuition in the brains of new soldiers, Marines and other troops with little or no battlefield experience.

Having intuition allows for split-second detection of patterns in the midst of uncertain scenarios -- a possibly life-saving action in the face of an ambush or area rigged with roadside bombs.

But intuition stands apart from step-by-step, time-consuming analytical thinking because it happens both rapidly and subconsciously. A soldier may see, smell or hear something that gets subconsciously organized within hundreds of milliseconds to create the "feeling or impression of a solution" leading up to a sudden insight about the battlefield situation.


As an Infantry foot soldier, I recall a similar training approach especially when we were to be sent on patrol.

Now the question is how any of us 'train' in developing can this 'Spidey sense' in civilian life and this goes to our training methodology being addressed here.

Here is something from the US military
The U.S. military also pointed to studies suggesting a sixth sense can arise from "implicit learning" -- absorbing information without being aware of the learning process -- rather than building up expertise through years of practice. Ordinary examples of implicit learning include bike riding, learning new languages or developing intuition about how other people may act.
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Re: Observing individuals

Postby Van Canna » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:58 am

To be able to "see" who is selecting you before he/they can act is an advantage that makes all the difference.
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Re: Observing individuals

Postby Stryke » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:11 am

*Grooming Cue: this is demonstrated as some kind of gesture towards the face, such as scratching the nose or ear, covering the mouth or running the hand through the hair. All of which could indicate deception.

* Glance to the flank/rear: looking behind or to the left and/or right indicates looking around to see if the coast is clear. People don’t just look around for no apparent reason.

* Definitive weight shift: This could be subtle or very gross motor in action. Weight is shifted in order to gain traction just before launching an attack.


The final stand-alone cue is any kind of hand movement towards the waistband area. This indicates an attempt to access a weapon, as this is the most common carry place along with pockets and inside a coat etc. Up the sleeves or down the sock or boot is more common to the carry of contra-band.

Of course such behavior can integrate together in a cluster real fast if not simultaneously, hence the need to avoid fixating on what is said and observe the cues unfolding. Again its important not to think about what you say, this should be practiced and automatic so that you can focus on the cues.
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Re: Observing individuals

Postby Stryke » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:26 am

One simple act/habit for seeing more is to simply look further forward than you do now.

the vast majority of us look a short distance in front of us , modern living encourages the viewing of close devices , laptops , phones , televisions , we are focused on tasks near us , this becomes habitual , it limits us looking ahead and it even encourages bad posture.

looking forward and further raises our head and lets us notice before we stumble apon things.

it is also I beleive, faster for the eye to focus back to an object than out to an object , this is often taught in Skeet shooting , and from expereince I concur .

our subconcious has a very good memory of what it has seen , and we are infact equiped to not be constantly staring at or feet and few metres in front of ourselves , heres an interesting expirement to see how well we cope with looking further.

one dark night in a safe place take a walk with a flashlight , preferably in an open area .

now try walking with the light illuminating just infront of you see how you do .

next try a bit further ahead , remembering what youve seen , repeat this process and extend the area between yourself and where the light shines.

youll find that the immediate area in fornt of you is not the optimal for being able to navigate and walk quickly , youll quickly find that you know/remember where you are stepping even in the dark.

looking out lets us see more of whats going on and scan more , anything thats comes between your gaze and yourself will immediatley take your attention and you can focus back, and you see anything close anyway if your looking. this simply makes looking a habit, you will walk with your head up which will make you more aware , and make you appear more confident for others that are watching.
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Re: Observing individuals

Postby Van Canna » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:21 am

This is a good post Stryke, thank you. In fact driving instructors, as you know, recommend looking ahead 20 seconds instead of fixating to just below the hood.
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Re: Observing individuals

Postby Stryke » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:27 am

thanks Van , I know this stuff will sound obvious to many but its the smallest things that have the biggest influence.

good point on the driving crucial stuff .

seeing things ahead is really a form of time travel, and though we cant always see whats coming we often can , how many storys start with I never saw it coming.

I dont discount the postural benifits either a recent sudy showed that a exagerated confident posture held for even two minues increased the participants testosterone levels , and reduced there cortisol(stress) levels.

the mind body connection at work .....
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Re: Observing individuals

Postby Van Canna » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:36 am

Yu are so right,Stryke...and today things are made worse by the 'new disease'...cell phone apps...i.e., 'cancerous brain cells advancing'.

Ever notice the new look of 'texting necks' while driving a car?
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Re: Observing individuals

Postby Stryke » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:40 am

Van Canna wrote:Yu are so right,Stryke...and today things are made worse by the 'new disease'...cell phone apps...i.e., 'cancerous brain cells advancing'.

Ever notice the new look of 'texting necks' while driving a car?


yeah Van used to see the folks holding there phones and texting which i thought was stupid, now the laws caught up and its illegal the phones are now down on the lap and the road gets no thought at all.

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Re: Observing individuals

Postby Van Canna » Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:51 pm

A good read, Stryke:

IMPORTANT TIPS:

1.) ALWAYS WATCH THE HANDS!!! If someone is going to draw a concealed weapon, they’ll have to reach for it first. This can take the form of a sudden quick movement, or (as is frequently the case), the goblin may simply turn to the side and slowly move his hand out of sight, hoping you won’t notice until it’s too late. If you can’t see his hands, call him on it ("Whatta you got, tough guy — a gun? You gonna pull out a gun in front of all these people?"). If he’s already gone for his weapon, you may be able to "jam" his draw by locking his elbow against his body (to be immediately followed with a lethal counterattack).


2.) If you see a man wearing a belt pack, always assume there’s a handgun inside. Several manufacturers offer belt packs with special "quick draw" features, and this is probably the most common means of concealed carry. Women’s purses are offered in a similar configuration, but these are far less frequently encountered.

3.) If you see a black cord or beaded chain around someone’s neck, it is probably attached to a Kydex sheath for either a small fixed-blade knife or a micro-revolver.

4.) Women frequently carry a gun in their purse — especially if their boyfriend is likely to be frisked by the police (although it’s usually buried).

5.) People who carry concealed weapons often can be seen patting or readjusting them, as they tend to shift uncomfortably from time to time.

6.) Unusual bulges (especially under the arm, at the waistband, or at the ankle) should be an immediate indicator of a concealed weapon.

7.) An individual with a concealed handgun will often project the attitude that he is a loudmouthed, bulletproof, super-villain with balls the size of cantaloupes. If you see a runt or stickboy carrying on in such a manner, you can reasonably assume that he is packing heat.

8.) The majority of "gun disarming techniques" commonly taught to advanced students at storefront martial-arts academies will not work in the real world. Please do not delude yourself into thinking that if a weaker individual pulls a gun on you it will be a simple matter to safely snatch it away because you’ve done it so many times in practice.

If you are not shot in the process, an innocent bystander surely will be. Give up your wallet and run away, if you must, rather than naively attempt to be a hero.

The only time you should ever attempt to wrest a firearm away from an attacker is if you believe that you (or a loved one) is about to be either raped or executed (or herded into a back room to be tied up, which often precedes rape and murder). Don’t be a dumbass.
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Re: Observing individuals

Postby Van Canna » Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:03 pm

How about this, Marcus?
On a flight from Bogota to Neiva some years ago (I took the same flight 30 days later) a woman pulled a gun (.32 auto I believe) from her vagina and hijacked the plane. The plane was forced to land on a highway south of Neiva where one Senator was removed by the FARC.
How do we tell??
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Re: Observing individuals

Postby jorvik » Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:29 pm

Thank God it wasn't a Magnum .44 :lol:
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Re: Observing individuals

Postby Jason Rees » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:26 am

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