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Stryke, i have somewhat known you on line for some time now and i know you like the more combat side of the art. How do you get past peoples perception of what you do VS what they think other martial arts are. For me i get very tired of having to verbaly defend or explain what i do, that the "little dragon school " that sombodys kid goes to is not at all like what i do and on the other side, i have to expain to the MMA guys that not all TMA schools stand around in horse stances making kiai sounds and that there is valid good stuff in there.
i only ask because you said you thought karate needed saving and now you know better.
Bill Glasheen wrote:Nobody wants to take the time to learn the extensive math, science, and statistics it takes to do my work. I'm surrounded by people who do not have English as a first language. It reminds me of being in engineering graduate school.
Are science and math dieing out? No. Is the education system in the U.S. suffering? Apparently. Are most Americans too lazy to do the work it takes to get most of the available jobs with a future? Apparently.
That doesn't make science, math, and statistics wrong, or dieing. But it does mean job security for yours truly. And it's a ticket to citizenship for a lot of Asians who apparently are willing to do the kind of work needed to qualify for our research unit.
Glenn wrote:I almost hesitate to comment on this analogy, since it is not the crux of the thread, but it falls into the realm of your "oversimplification alert" Bill.
Glenn wrote: As the father of a college freshman who is majoring in mechanical engineering and minoring in mathematics, international engineering, and Japanese, and going through the orientations last summer with many other similar students and their families, I can tell you that there does not seem to be any shortage of bright, qualified American-educated students anxious to jump into the math and science coursework.
Glenn wrote:But will they go on to graduate school? Probably not. Why? Well the bottom line is that they really do not feel there is anything to gain by it. My daughter will probably be in demand when she graduates and likely will make a pretty good salary in her career. In her mind why should she delay her career 2-4 years for a masters or an additional 4-6 years for a doctorate, all the while amassing a hefty student-loan burden to afford graduate school, when the ROI seems dubious at best. Most foreign graduate students, particularly from China, have been sent here for their education by their countries' governments, which is paying for everything for them, so they view this situation differently.
Glenn wrote:You also are ignoring graduate-school recruitment strategies. Universities have been developing/intensifying partnerships with countries such as China and India, and departmental representatives actively recruit in those countries; but they really do not bother trying to recruit graduate students at other American universities.
Glenn wrote:The bottom line is that there is a more complex process behind the anecdotal evidence you are seeing besides a 'lazy American' syndrome.
Bill Glasheen wrote:You hesitate... and yet here you are.
Show me someone who can do your daughter's coursework, and also get through general and organic chemistry. There are very few.
Finding engineers who can read and write well enough to take courses in the college is also rare. Your daughter sounds fairly bright. Good for her!
Almost nobody goes to graduate school without getting financial support. I earned my way through with an NIH trainingship grant for systems physiology. Seven of us in the department got one. If I wasn't good enough, I wouldn't have gotten one and probably never would have finished graduate school.
That's not my experience, Glenn. And I have been both student and faculty at a major university.
American universities not wanting to produce Americans with graduate degrees in engineering? Really? That doesn't pass the sniff test.
With nearly 100 new Partnership Degree Program students from China enrolling this fall, UNL is seeing the first wave of students who started two years ago at Chinese universities with the goal of completing their degrees in Lincoln.
English instructors Mariah Schuemann and Regina (Gigi) Weitzel, hired by UNL to teach and coordinate PDP activities in China, spent the week of Aug. 16 in Lincoln. The two met with faculty, administrators and others and then welcomed their students to campus for International Student Orientation on Aug. 20.
Weitzel is beginning her third year at Zhejiang University City College, which is primarily an engineering and computer science college in Hangzhou. Schuemann is beginning her second year at Xi’an Jiaotong University City College in Xi’an. While their formal titles are “English instructor,” both note their jobs encompass much more than teaching English.
“UNL is somewhat unique because we have stable, long-term employees in China whose jobs are to help the undergraduates prepare to succeed,” Weitzel said. Many universities who recruit Chinese students to study in the U.S. use paid recruiters, Weitzel said.
Added Schuemann: “We are a resource for the students; they get to know us and are comfortable coming to use for help with personal or academic issues. We are the familiar face of UNL in China.”
The women focus on helping their students hone four skills – listening, speaking, reading and writing English –– plus developing cultural knowledge. Both agree it’s hardest to get through to fourth semester students, who have been admitted to UNL and think they can coast in their English classes.
Hunter said UNL has increased its presence in China, India, Brazil, Vietnam and other countries to help recruit more students.
She also said the university participates in programs such as Science without Borders, where international students from Brazil come to UNL to study science-related fields. These types of programs increase UNL’s international reputation and enrollment, Hunter said.
The Institute of Agriculture and Natural Resources continues to build relationships in China, with recent developments on several fronts aimed at building an important foothold for UNL and the state itself in one of the fastest growing economic powers in the world.
A team of IANR officials, led by Vice Chancellor Ronnie Green, recently returned from the country. Green was making his third visit to China in 18 months, joined this time by Mark Doyle, IANR director of global engagement, and Rolando Flores, head of the Department of Food Science and Technology.
Currently, China sends more students to U.S. universities than any other country.
U.S. Students Still Lag Globally in Math and Science, Tests Show
Also... You should come look at the influx of people from India in the west end of Richmond. Capital One has a very rigorous test they give folks as a first step in recruitment. If you don't do well on this math and statistics oriented test, they won't even talk to you.
Guess who seems to be doing well on it?
There was an Indian Hindu temple that just got built and then expanded a few miles from my house. What's up with that?
What's up with the Math places being loaded with mostly Asian kids? Still confused? Come talk to some of the parents who have considered sending their kids back home to get their educations.
Glenn wrote:Assistantships do not pay much though. My current stipend is $1,000 a month for 10 months, or $10,000 a year. For single grad students with no additional income coming in from a significant other, that is below the poverty level of $11,170 for a single person.
Glenn wrote:Think about the environment we grew up in Bill. Science was in its heyday in the US in the 1950s-1970s, with the news touting one breakthrough after another. NASA alone was sparking the interest of many kids in science and technology. There were only 4 channels, and if nothing good was on ABC, CBS, or NBC then odds were good you might switch over to a documentary on PBS like Cosmos. Even the Big 3 had prime time science shows with Cousteau specials and Wild Kingdom.
Now however science programming is lost in the forest that is cable/satellite programming. To survive, the so-called "science" channels like Science, Discovery, TLC, and Animal Planet have largely abandoned science programming in favor of worthless so-called "reality" shows.
We also have leaders who regularly devalue science and ridicule scientists, and the media now only reports on NASA when it makes a mistake. With budget cuts and offshoring kids are uncertain about whether science/tech jobs will be around for them anyway. Then there are all the other distractions that we did not have, such as IPads, XBoxes, smart phones and the like.
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