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gmattson wrote:Where we seem to have a difference of opinion is whether we should condone the behavior of the big companies who earn their livings creating bad foods that have addictive, drug-like ingredients that insure people will continue eating and drinking these products.
gmattson wrote:We all probably agree that drinking Coke and most other soft drinks are bad for you and definitely are addictive for those who drink a lot of these beverages.
gmattson wrote:Your take (based on our GMO discussions) is that the companies making these products are not at fault - the people drinking it should know better!
gmattson wrote:I've heard about quite a few scientist and doctors losing their jobs because they question the behavior of their industries and companies. (did you watch 60 minutes last night about the large hospital organizations who were forcing doctors to admit patients who weren't sick. their "goals" were to make money, not heal the sick or to perform good deeds. Doctors were interviewed who were fired.) The person in charge of the hospitals (FMA?) simply stated that all the interviews, studies, documents were not proof, because they were not generated using acceptable testing standard! (where have I heard that before)
Just another example of why consumers must not trust those we used to trust.
Bill Glasheen wrote:I hear that baby seal is especially tender!
Bill Glasheen wrote:If you arbitrarily set a rule that the grass cannot grow above a certain height - and we can assume that Roundup isn't in the budget or business plan - then you've just set a bad rule. You're the grasslands guy; you should appreciate this. Someone like my son would cut the grass close like a putting green so he wouldn't have to cut it as much. It would look fantastic - for a few cuts. Before long, the fescue is waning and the yard is riddled with wiregrass, chickweed, and clover. Go on down the road to my neighbor with the plush lawn and you'll see he cuts it at 3 to 4 inches every time - and no closer. He has what a female friend of mine once called "sex grass." Bottom line - the rule is a dumb one. Fescue likes to be a bit taller than Bermuda grass or some equivalent. I in fact won't cut my grass much at all if the temperature hits above 90. I'll wait until a cold front is coming and cut it hours before it hits. When I look around the neighborhood, I note a few other property owners are out there at the exact time I am. Hmm... coincidence? I think not.
Dumb rules begat dumb behavior.
But here's a brain twister for you. This is the common color of the peppered moth in Britain before the industrial revolution.
Here is the common color of the moth during the industrial revolution, when coal-burning plants were common.
Is this "natural" selection or "artificial" selection? Man after all caused this transformation - however accidental.
Bill Glasheen wrote:There are good guys and bad guys out there, George. Medicine has the best and the worst of what mankind offers.
Glenn wrote:Such characterizations could easily be applied to medical research, where big pharma grant money is paying for a cover-up of the link between vaccinations and autism for example
Glenn wrote:Can we say "missed the point"?! Clearly y'all did not read all of my post before replying.
Actually Glenn If I'm not mistaken Bill just places the sky is falling crowd in that group. He shows the utmost respect for those in the scientific community that have figured out that the earth has been covered with vast sheets of ice and they melted. Water freezes, melts, evaporates, it's constantly changing (Fluid, Solid, Gas). Think this is explained in primary school. I wouldn't presume to speak for Bill, but I suspect he thinks scientists that don't understand this are bozo scientists. I do at any rate.Glenn wrote: you tend to lump all climate change scientists together as "bozo environmental scientists" with "schitty mathematical modeling"
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