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Training / Safety FLAWS:

Do you train a deadly martial art that teaches you how to kill to protect yourself?

If yes, how many people have you killed in training?

If you train to kill but have never killed anyone then you have a training / Safety FLAW.

Note 1: Every training has a safety flaw.

Note 2: You need to know what it is.

Note 3: You need to try to minimize the effect it has.

(I’m watching Rory Miller’s Facing Violence DVD — such great stuff.)

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Rick Wilson - http://wpd-rc.com/

'Psycho-Chemical stress conditioning in Budo'

Here's an article that reflects much of what I believe to be critical in our training.

http://shinyokai.com/Essays_PCSConditioning.htm

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OUCH

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Take bucket

And very cold water

Dump over head

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Rick Wilson - http://wpd-rc.com/

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Is there blood in your dojo?

If not – why not?


Okay this may sound odd to some and to others it will make absolute sense.

I believe that you should be able to train with injury as much as possible barring accidents.

I also believe you cannot train properly without getting hurt on a fairly regular basis.

A split lip, or

A black eye, or

Multiple “sore” spots – often discovered only the next day, or

A mix of all of the above.

If you train hard you will get knocked around and as tough or as conditioned we get you will get “hurt.”

I distinguish hurt from injury in that hurt means you are sore but not impeded in any way and injury is where there is actual structural damage to you that impedes your work the next day, your life and possible your training.

And I am not saying we train super hard or we are super tough.

As a comparison, one of my training partners just spent a week in France and was training with some Foreign Legionnaires – okay – they train hard. What I do doesn’t compare.

What I am saying is that in training you have Softwork which works on efficiency (not often any hurt and unless there is an accident - no injuries) and as you add in partner resistance you move into Hardwork which works on effectiveness and as you move into hardwork the bumps and knocks start and there will be “hurt.”

If there is no hurt then the level of resistance is just not high enough.

As Van posted training does not reach reality because then you are into injury.

Anyway just wondering what people thought about this concept of a little hurt to learn?

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Rick Wilson - http://wpd-rc.com/

Well if you train with weapons then you can't really think like that , you have to be uber carefull, but having said that if you are training to really do damage to someone then you can't train like that either. When I was younger I used to go a bit mad with escrima, me and another guy used to really go at it with machetes, just doing two man drills with unsharpened weapons.one time I was nearly hit in the face by a blade.so that woke me up to reality.recently i got back into escrima after many years abscence, but having practised on my own a lot with sticks and knives.and I trained once again but with people who I suppose should have been a lot better than I was.but they weren't.....i suppose that they were better at two man drills than I was ..but when it got to be time to sparr I could certainly hold my own.......I've noticed this with free sparing as well.if you practice on your own ( and you seldom get hurt there) then you seem to maintain your level..............A lot of the stuff that I do with " Poor Bob" I couldn't do with a partner, So I guess I am avoiding those type of injuries..most times when folks get together or when they give demos they tend to reherse rather than fight........also I notice that beginners tend to get more injured than the advanced folks, because maybe they don't know how to play it as much of a game as their seniors.maybe they are closer to reality....advanced people fight to a timing. There is also a difference between boxers and streetfighters....because of their timings....boxers take time trying to set people up, in the street they may do this by talking or whatever, but there fighting tends to be close and brutal and none stop

like all training you introduce failings in the training to compromise for safety .

then you have to train other things to make sure you cover the failings, usually this means other failings ... its a vicious cycle

we use protective gear , padding and blunt padded weapons in different types to simulate different aspects.

If you don't have a scale of intensity and a scale of safety then your not training , your either fighting or pretending .....

Thats why the odd knock is inevitable , because as you progress you often push the limits , because the point of training is expanding your limits, while being responsible for everyone's safety.

the realness of sport conflict will probably be an oxymoron to someone like Ray, but its also a useful tool, plenty of sport weapon arts with safety valves.

I do agree combatives and mutual confrontation have different mindset , and generally timing , but stereotypes.......

but you need to drill somehow , you need to train somehow , banging on bob is pretty good for someone whos probably already arrived but you need to test yourself to get to that point.

unless of course you plan to learn by just fighting itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXmw7QGL0dM

these guys do some pretty good weapon testing