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Everybody is telling you to use " reasonable force" when something totally unreasonable is happening to you.
Van Canna wrote:Michael RosenbaumRecreational Martial Arts and Fight, Flight or Freeze
Trained and conditioned responses, sometimes take months even years to develop. Special Forces operatives usually undergo a year of extensive training before ever seeing combat. The same applies for law enforcement officers, firefighters, paramedics and even bouncers. Furthermore, time spent patrolling the streets, or on the battlefield, heightens their sense of awareness, which in turn allows them to experience the fight, flight or freeze syndrome in a calm and detached state, unlike the ordinary civilian.
And herein lies the problem with recreational martial arts practice and self-defense programs. Recreational martial artists are often led to believe they are learning how to fight, but sadly the dojo bears little resemblance to the mean streets of most metropolitan cities. And even in schools devoted exclusively to self-defense students may never experience the fight, flight or freeze syndrome because while physically practicing realistic techniques on a subconscious level, they feel safe because of the familiarity of their surroundings.
Worse yet are those who teach one-day seminars to unsuspecting persons all the while guaranteeing complete protection from any and all threats. This can and does happen frequently in large corporations, government agencies, and private companies when a well intentioned person desires to improve work safety, yet knows little about realistic self-protection.
Hence a martial arts instructor is paid to lead a self-defense seminar and the corporate staff comes away with a false sense of security and a handful of knowledge that may prove more dangerous than useful. For example, on several occasions I have personally witnessed self-defense instructors advocate striking the thorax as a first response in addition to the advice “just keep moving forward, you’ll work through the fight or flight as you go.”
The functional strength one devolves doing labor is a significant advantage over those lacking in that area. I remember at Malone's a guy names Eugene that use to hammer the crap out of lots of us. He spent his day lifting dirt or ice on the end of a shovel (weight on a long leaver). It hurt when he hit you he was super strong. Decades later I developed similar traits following a similar program. I've been ridiculed by some for depending on strength, but the bottom line is even going soft and throwing in some technique the weak crumble it's not my fault it's theirs. Eat something and work!Glenn wrote:The strongest person in the dojo here back in the 1990s, with the best grip, was a concrete layer. I believe his day job definitely helped his martial arts. He was the most challenging to spar, particularly after he learned to incorporate technique with his brute strength. And yet the gentlest, most soft-spoken person outside of that context.
The third skill experience! Fit/strong, skilled and experienced. Each one will serve you, all of them and your more than a handful for lots of folks. Lots of fat desk jockeys on the force at one time had lots of beat experience and lots of exposure to the elephant. Hard to trump experience.jorvik wrote:and of course you have all those fat cops sitting on their arses all day driving around......what could you learn from them how good would they be in a streetfight
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