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Really it is so hard to gauge what will happen, violence is never cold, there is always an aspect to it that confuses you, puts you in a negative state.
Jay Lewis was a former police officer... avid hunter... gun collector... and a concealed carry permit owner.
One night around midnight, Lewis was headed home when he passed a slow car carrying 5 people coming back from a Halloween party.
But after Lewis passed, the car sped up to race him down the street.
Lewis went to turn to the left and the other car collided with his.
2 of the passengers then got out and started punching on Lewis's windows, until he pulled out his .380 pistol he had with him.
They backed off toward their car and Lewis got out to call 911 and examine the damage to his car.
That was when the 2 men came back!
Trying to sneak attack Lewis in two different directions, you could hear Lewis's warnings on the 911 call...
"Get back! Get Back! I'm going to start shooting!
Get away from me! Get away from me!" * BANG *
Click To Hear 911 Call
<= You can hear the actual 911 call by clicking here
The two men had faked like they were turning away but then charged Lewis, forcing him to shoot and injure one of the men.
When the police showed up, the man was taken to the hospital...
... and Lewis was arrested because police suspected that he failed to back off and avoid the shooting.
He was charged with two counts of "intimidation with a dangerous weapon" and going "armed with intent".
Here's the good news...
Lewis was acquitted by a jury of his peers on all charges.
Here's the bad news...
Lewis only made $32,359 a year and didn't have the $225,000 cash for bail money that was set for him!
Therefore, he was forced to stay in jail until his court date... 112 days later!
But it gets worse...
While Lewis was in jail, he was evicted from his apartment because management saw him as "dangerous" because of his self-defense shooting.
They even threw all of his belongings out on the curb - which were all stolen by passers-by.
Lewis emerged from jail 112 days later to be homeless and broke... all for just defending himself from two road rage thugs!
Here's what I want you to learn from this...
Just "showing" your weapon is considered illegal and you can be arrested for it (as Lewis was)
Even if you act in self defense... you can STILL be arrested!
Even if you're found "not guilty"... it's STILL going to cost you a butt-load of money to pay for bail and legal expenses to defend yourself.
In the meantime, you can lose your job... your house...
your belongings... and if found "guilty", your freedom and family!
As Van mentioned in the earlier post, now Lien will mostly likely be sued for running over those tough dudes who blocked his vehicle. The medical cost for him and his family, plus the lawyers, the time loss from work due to the likely law suit, the mental aftermath for him and his family, potential loss of his job due to not being able to work, --- on and on---- .
It is unsafe just going out any more. Animals seem to be running wild and (they are) well protected.
Another thing though, which may or may not be relevant to the incident and may be difficult and uncomfortable as it might be for some of you to understand or acknowledge, the people got attacked is an Asian family. Was that the main reason for the attack? I don't know, I sure hope not. But what I can tell you from personally experience is (those who know me know that I am quite polite and non confrontational- until I got ignited), I got dirty looks, challenged, and attacked many many times myself for nothing other than being Asian . -- That was the original reason I got into karate and self defense but that's another story.
Jeremiah Mieses, one of the motorcycle riders struck by Lien, may be left a paraplegic, the report said.
“My son just got out of surgery. Now we have to contend with his situation that he will never walk again,” the injured man’s father, Rev. Edwin Mieses posted on Facebook, The Daily News reported"
The video appears to show an accident involving the victim's sport utility vehicle and one of dozens of motorcycles being driven north on the Henry Hudson Parkway in upper Manhattan.
It showed the group of bikers suddenly slowing and stopping en masse, bringing northbound traffic to a halt.
The SUV, a dark-colored Range Rover, suddenly accelerated, rolling over several motorcycles and knocking at least one rider to the ground.
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