I hear us men aren't needed anymore?

Allen M. · Post by **Allen M.** » Tue Aug 07, 2001 9:14 am

I just wonder how long it'll be before men no longer exist? Are we really used up and no longer necessary? Are we doomed?
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/nm/20010807/sc/health_cloning_dc_1.html
http://www.nationalacademies.org/includes/programguide.html

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Allen Moulton from Uechi-ryu Etcetera

student · Post by **student** » Tue Aug 07, 2001 11:31 am

We're still handy to have around to open jar lids and to be bad examples, Allen.

I wouldn't start worrying until the culture stops using jars....

student

Allen M. · Post by **Allen M.** » Tue Aug 07, 2001 1:11 pm

This jar opening thing sounds abstract. However, there is something about opening jars that we are reportedly famous for, but I can't quite remember what it is.

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Allen Moulton from Uechi-ryu Etcetera

LeeDarrow · Post by **LeeDarrow** » Tue Aug 07, 2001 4:42 pm

I can't recall for the life of me what it is either. An extensive internet search revealed nothing as well.

Could this be an urban legend?

With tongue firmly in cheek (making danm difficult to speak clearly,

Lee Darrow, C.Ht.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Allen M.:
This jar opening thing sounds abstract. However, there is something about opening jars that we are reportedly famous for, but I can't quite remember what it is.

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Panther · Post by **Panther** » Tue Aug 07, 2001 8:02 pm

"I hear us men aren't needed anymore?"

What do you mean, "anymore"?

Dukie · Post by **Dukie** » Tue Aug 07, 2001 9:29 pm

Don't fret. You are still wanted if not needed. I would rather be kept(not discarded) out of desire than necessity.

Just my spin..

Good training, Peace Out...
Laura

LeeDarrow · Post by **LeeDarrow** » Tue Aug 07, 2001 10:28 pm

Dukie-Sensei,

Just so long as you don't want to be kept in a jar! (couldn't resist!)

With tongue firmly in cheek (making it darn near impossible to speak clearly),

Lee Darrow, C.Ht.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Dukie:

Don't fret. You are still wanted if not needed. I would rather be kept(not discarded) out of desire than necessity.

Just my spin..

Good training, Peace Out...
Laura
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Allen M. · Post by **Allen M.** » Tue Aug 07, 2001 11:33 pm

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Could this be an urban legend?

Nope! News sources have been going nuts over the past few days on this cloning thing.
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You are still wanted if not needed.

A put-down to the max.

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Allen Moulton from Uechi-ryu Etcetera

Dukie · Post by **Dukie** » Wed Aug 08, 2001 4:32 pm

Dukie wrote:
You are still wanted if not needed.

Allen M wrote:
A put-down to the max.

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As I had no intentions of putting anyone down I wish to try to clarify my statemtent.

The "if not needed" is coming from the very independent person in me. It is my opnion that in today's society some women are with men because they want to be not because they need to be. We as women have come a long way in the last 100 years and part of that reality is the need for a man has lessened.
We can now vote
We can own property
It is acceptable to hold a job outside of the home
We hold jobs that allow us to be on our own and not depend on the man's money
We can train in MA so we don't need to rely on the protection of a man
We are allowed to openly express our opinions.
We are allowed in the military
We can become doctors instead up being just nurses

None of this existed a 100 years ago to the degree it does now.
This is what I am basing my statement on. But let me reiterate, "you are still very much wanted." But that is not speaking for everyone. Because I can't speak for everyone.

My intentions were to try to lift you up with my post not put you down. I hope this clears it up. If you still feel it is a put down then let me apologize now because I obviously can't put in words what my true feelings are and you aren't seeing what I am saying.

Good training, Peace Out...
Laura

LeeDarrow · Post by **LeeDarrow** » Wed Aug 08, 2001 4:48 pm

Actually, the urban legend I was referring to was the semi-mythical "other thing that neither of us can remember but are useful for" thing. Not the cloning deal.

Sorry for the sloppy language.

Respectfully,

Lee Darrow, C.Ht.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Allen M.:

Could this be an urban legend?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Nope! News sources have been going nuts over the past few days on this cloning thing.
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You are still wanted if not needed.
A put-down to the max.

LeeDarrow · Post by **LeeDarrow** » Wed Aug 08, 2001 4:52 pm

Dukie-sama

I THINK Allen was joking when he said that.

Just a possibility, but print is a difficult medium to put voice tone into.

Just a thought.

Respectfully,

Lee Darrow, C.Ht.

Panther · Post by **Panther** » Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:31 pm

I probably shouldn't do this...

What the heck... here goes nothing...

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Dukie:

We as women have come a long way in the last 100 years and part of that reality is the need for a man has lessened.
We can now vote<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

For all the good that's done you.

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We can own property

Women were allowed to homestead 150 years ago and own property in many States. Not everywhere, but then again, some of the Northern states were pretty Victorian about that type of thing.

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It is acceptable to hold a job outside of the home

Aw, com'on... haven't you seen Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman?

(only partially tongue in cheek.)

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We hold jobs that allow us to be on our own and not depend on the man's money

Debt (money) isn't what it's cracked up to be. Especially the current version. Women 150 years ago could and did have their own money... and it was real, valuable money based on some tangible asset such as gold or silver.

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We can train in MA so we don't need to rely on the protection of a man

I hope it works, but I'm not holding my breath. I'd feel better if you were trained in the use of knives, guns and other personal rescue tools... and allowed to carry them anywhere, anytime, anyway... 150 years ago I wouldn't be worried about your ability to exercise your inalienable Right of self-defense.

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We are allowed to openly express our opinions.

For better or for worse.

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We are allowed in the military

But not into combat positions.

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We can become doctors instead up being just nurses

See Dr. Quinn comment above.

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None of this existed a 100 years ago to the degree it does now.

Hmmmm... Let's see...

~110 years ago a 14 year old woman could...

go to the local general store in a prairie town and purchase:

1) A Winchester model 94 rifle, a Colt Peacemaker revolver and all the ammo she wanted. Cash, no background check, no paperwork, no license, no questions asked. (those were the "assault weapons" of their day.)

proceed to the next counter and purchase
2) Laudinum, Opiate derivatives, codeine and any other pharmaceudicals she wanted. Cash, no prescription, no doctor's paperwork, no questions asked. She didn't have to purchase marijuana if she wanted some, it grew wild by the railroad tracks... it's a weed, don'tchaknow. She could get heroin or cocaine if she wanted as well, but the laudinum was more powerful.

then go to the next counter and purchase
3) rolling papers, tobacco products and various "spirits" (that's alcohol for the city folk reading), which weren't taxed and which didn't have an age limit associated with them. Cash, no questions asked, no age limit.

then purchase
4) any other products she wanted to buy or barter for (money, even the true mooney of that time, wasn't such an important commodity. Often it was a swapping for a chicken, some craft, sewing services, eggs, whatever...)

and then
5) load all of those things in her buck-board wagon, which didn't have a registration, she didn't need a license to operate, had no required safety inspection, and she could travel about freely in.

and also
6) put her kids in that wagon to head home... kids which weren't "registered" at birth with a government approved "birth certificate" and a government required identification and tracking number (SSN). Head home to her husband, who she was married to in the eyes of their G-D, but without a required government license to have entered into that matrimony... her husband who was doing his manly duty be hunting, farming, gathering, fixing, working around the homestead (usually) to provide for his family.

AND
7) if her husband had to drive cattle or take produce to the market, perhaps for days or weeks on end, and if that woman left at home with the kids was attacked by some low-life piece of scum, then she could and would use the previously mentioned Winchester 94 or Colt Peacemaker to dispatch said low-life into the depths of Hades where he belonged... and IF someone found out about it, that woman would be congratulated and then consoled... congratulated for protecting her family and property... and consoled for having to bury the afore mentioned piece of scum.

So... you have to wonder if gaining the vote (and the other things that seem to be important on the list) was really worth the loss of all of these Freedoms, Liberties, and Rights.

I know I wonder about it.

Mary S · Post by **Mary S** » Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:39 pm

Gee Panther, that sounds vaguely familiar

I think (hope, pray) men will be around for a very long time to come especially some of the men on these forums - they make life so interesting.

LenTesta · Post by **LenTesta** » Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:40 pm

It is so easy to put the words down on these pages and have them read by others who interpret them completely different.

Verbal insult? No I do not think any member will try that on these forums. Chosing phrases wisely is only acheived by years of practice.

There are many who are very good at manipulating the english language and can insult someone while apparently praising them.

Dukie did not mean to insult anyone. We all know that.

Allen did not mean to imply that she did.

Easily we can see how confrontations in print can be started when none was intended in the first place.

Note: Pardon me for trying to seem like an expert. There is/has not been any posts to the VSD forum for many weeks now and I am itching to give my comments. Knowing Allen as I do... He is just kidding.

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Len

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LenTesta · Post by **LenTesta** » Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:46 pm

I hope so too Mary.

Who would I play baseball with if men were not around.

See, I can choose phrases unwisely also.

You know I am kidding?

Right?

You know that don't you?