Very interesting reading. Although not as well versed as some I'd like to toss my slant on things into the fray.
I can't speak for Karate in generic terms, but wish to approach the debate from what I see as the strength of Uechi.
Uechi is paraded as a half hard half soft system. I would expect there would be no holding in a hard system and plenty of it in a soft system.
If we accept Uechi as half hard and soft, then it would seem to follow that we would, in this style, be likely to use techniques both with a way that emphasises the hard linear strikes or the "soft" movement and holding.
As said earlier yin and yang in balance.
Gilbert.
Karate stereotype - fact or myth??
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Karate stereotype - fact or myth??
I've been away for a while and forgot about this thread. Sorry guys, especially Panther. Looks like I stirred up the proverbial crap, and then ran away. I did'nt intend that. You guys did a great job in pointing out the issues. I guess I mis-read Panther's original phrase. I know what he means now, and it does make sense to me. However, I still would not classify karate as "a striking art".
Jake makes a great point though! If you don't do it..... Yes, I think we need to practice both!
Then again, how are you going to practice fishooking somebody's lip and ripping the flesh off of the bones of their face? Kata! (BTW, this actually occured in a match between a famous Judo champion and Chotoku Kyan..guess who did the "grappling technique"?)
Why would you practice striking, if you are mostly going to be fighting guy's with armor on? You would'nt, would you? Yet Jujitsuka DID practice striking, with all the SAME hand formations that karateka did. (including the "Uechi" beak strike, and shoken)
Its all the same. "The more I think about it, human beings all have two arms and two legs...." Bruce Lee.
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"There ain't no graduation from this kind of education"
Jake makes a great point though! If you don't do it..... Yes, I think we need to practice both!
Then again, how are you going to practice fishooking somebody's lip and ripping the flesh off of the bones of their face? Kata! (BTW, this actually occured in a match between a famous Judo champion and Chotoku Kyan..guess who did the "grappling technique"?)
Why would you practice striking, if you are mostly going to be fighting guy's with armor on? You would'nt, would you? Yet Jujitsuka DID practice striking, with all the SAME hand formations that karateka did. (including the "Uechi" beak strike, and shoken)
Its all the same. "The more I think about it, human beings all have two arms and two legs...." Bruce Lee.
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"There ain't no graduation from this kind of education"
