right, so which of the 4 styles i've received do i refer to as the forbidden art im searching for? so far i've got
'wak yu goot'
'red sand palm'
'fire sand palm' and
'sun da'
im not sure what the chinese name for this forbidden art is, i only know its japanese name 'fujitsu' (also the name of computer company funnily enough)
wak yu goot sounds a bit like the one im searching for as saying O WA TA GU SIAM will drive anyone crazy, but if it's going to enlighten someone, i dont think it is as its a forbidden art and i doubt it will need enlightenment.
then there's sun da and its risky training sessions. i think sun da is probably the forbidden art of china because of its extreme methods of training. is sun da the chinese name?
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by satan:
then there's sun da and its risky training sessions. i think sun da is probably the forbidden art of china because of its extreme methods of training. is sun da the chinese name?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sun Da is only a Cantonese generic term for that art, just like kung fu is used to describe all sorts of Chinese martial arts.
The proper name for Sun Da in Mandarin is "Mao San Xin Gong" and there are numerous different styles.
"Wak Yu Goot" is Cantonese? Never heard of it, or anything phonetically close.
Bill
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then there's sun da and its risky training sessions. i think sun da is probably the forbidden art of china because of its extreme methods of training. is sun da the chinese name?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sun Da is only a Cantonese generic term for that art, just like kung fu is used to describe all sorts of Chinese martial arts.
The proper name for Sun Da in Mandarin is "Mao San Xin Gong" and there are numerous different styles.
"Wak Yu Goot" is Cantonese? Never heard of it, or anything phonetically close.
Bill
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"Learning is a never ending process. Shodan is, as it really means, the beginning of serious learning." by Seigo TADA, founder of Seigokan (1922-1997)
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I have absolutely nothing to add to the actual thread... However, I like the moniker "Satan". I knew the first person on the 'net to use "satan" as their login and he was a really great person. His use of that login was an interesting story in itself and was very intentional. If I hadn't had my moniker before, I probably would have considered using "satan" myself. Who you are is what counts, not what you call yourself. As for me, in some threads people have thought of me as a devil's advocate, but in other threads I'm certain that people have realized that I'm the devil incarnate! 
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alright, ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT!!! My bad. Mea culpa.
You just never know with new people coming on board. We've had first class flamers entering the forums (people with no purpose other than to cause trouble) and so my radar is always peaked whenever a new person comes on board. I think by now we can at least agree that "Satan" started a rather entertaining thread.
Still waiting to hear about you, Satan. It's OK if you are "green." We all are in one way or another...
As for you, Panther, I can always count on you for a little dark-comic relief.
- Bill
You just never know with new people coming on board. We've had first class flamers entering the forums (people with no purpose other than to cause trouble) and so my radar is always peaked whenever a new person comes on board. I think by now we can at least agree that "Satan" started a rather entertaining thread.
Still waiting to hear about you, Satan. It's OK if you are "green." We all are in one way or another...
As for you, Panther, I can always count on you for a little dark-comic relief.
- Bill
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gald i interested you with my topic Bill. And panther, who is the satan you know? i have 2 nicknames: nuggy and satan. nearly everyone knows me as nuggy but some of the pople who know me as satan take it a little bit too serious! but the others are cool with it and call me nuggy or satan.
anyway, just thought id tell you people that. im not a bad person, dont get me wrong.
thats all for now people
anyway, just thought id tell you people that. im not a bad person, dont get me wrong.
thats all for now people
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It's not my place to give out people's actual identities... However, the "satan"(s) that I know used to have the login(s) at:
mit.edu
wpi.edu
us.army.mil
world.std.com
(and "no", it wasn't 4 people... )
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"Silly rabbit, tricks are for prostitutes!"
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mit.edu
wpi.edu
us.army.mil
world.std.com
(and "no", it wasn't 4 people...
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"Silly rabbit, tricks are for prostitutes!"
-satan@world.std.com
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kusanku -
As usual, an excellent post on the Sun Da cult. Please allow me to add what little I have been able to uncover as well.
The Sun Da style, which was actually in many ways more of a political/religious movement, seems to have relied on Iron Sand Palm and Oron Vest training as you suggest. One of the films taken by a British film crew seems to bear this idea out.
However, one of the things that made the Sun Da people even more of a danger to themselves was a small, but vocal and widely popular group of Taoist Wizards (yes, they actually believed in and practiced some of the darker arts of Taoist magic and alchemy). These wizards, for want of a better term, promised to use their magick to help make the Boxers invincible and immune to gunfire.
In several instances, it has been documented that the bullet-catching trick was used to help convince Boxers that their magick worked.
Needless to say, this was a scam that makes Benny Hinn look like an amateur!
One thing the original poster could be referring to would be the Ging - the One-Inch Punch, made famous by Bruce Lee and others. A punch of this type looks like a no-effort blast where the uke, through several inches of padding and being braced by several strong men, gets dumped unceremoniously on his pratt, often several feet away.
Southern Praying Mantis form stresses this technique in their Phoenix Fist Strike, which is similar to a shoken jab to the stomach, but uses an incredible amount of force generated by a coordinated motiuon of hips, shoulders, legs and back in an explosive popping punch. Obviously, Wing Chun also teaches this technique, but from a slightly different stance and strike position.
Maybe this helps? Or do I have my Chinese cults mixed again? (*&@%$#^ office - no good references around when I need them).
Respectfully,
Lee Darrow, C.Ht.
As usual, an excellent post on the Sun Da cult. Please allow me to add what little I have been able to uncover as well.
The Sun Da style, which was actually in many ways more of a political/religious movement, seems to have relied on Iron Sand Palm and Oron Vest training as you suggest. One of the films taken by a British film crew seems to bear this idea out.
However, one of the things that made the Sun Da people even more of a danger to themselves was a small, but vocal and widely popular group of Taoist Wizards (yes, they actually believed in and practiced some of the darker arts of Taoist magic and alchemy). These wizards, for want of a better term, promised to use their magick to help make the Boxers invincible and immune to gunfire.
In several instances, it has been documented that the bullet-catching trick was used to help convince Boxers that their magick worked.
Needless to say, this was a scam that makes Benny Hinn look like an amateur!
One thing the original poster could be referring to would be the Ging - the One-Inch Punch, made famous by Bruce Lee and others. A punch of this type looks like a no-effort blast where the uke, through several inches of padding and being braced by several strong men, gets dumped unceremoniously on his pratt, often several feet away.
Southern Praying Mantis form stresses this technique in their Phoenix Fist Strike, which is similar to a shoken jab to the stomach, but uses an incredible amount of force generated by a coordinated motiuon of hips, shoulders, legs and back in an explosive popping punch. Obviously, Wing Chun also teaches this technique, but from a slightly different stance and strike position.
Maybe this helps? Or do I have my Chinese cults mixed again? (*&@%$#^ office - no good references around when I need them).
Respectfully,
Lee Darrow, C.Ht.
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Guys-
Sun Da is real.
Wak Yu Goot is not.
That was a joke.:-)
Wak Yu Goot=Whack You Good.
As for O Wa Ta Gu Siam, say that for a while, and when you figure it out, you'll really feel like one.That was something the Boy Scouts had the first timers chant in front of a fire, and told each when they figured it out, to shut up, get up,and have fun watching the others figure out they were chanting, not a national chant of Thailand, but 'Oh, What A goose I am!'
But sun da, or whatever the real name was, that was a nother matter.
Only really secret art I know of today.
There are family arts that are kept in families, of course.Some have taught people from outside the family.They are not necessarily superior or different than openly taught art, but their secrecy guarantees a non family member won't know beforehand from looking, what you are going to do until you do it.
There is a sort of hidden type Chinese art called Yau Kuen Mon Kung Fu,I knew a guy that was family, we trained some, and his art was very like White Eyebrow or White Tiger styles.
If you didnt know that beforehand and tangled with one of thes folks, u would robably get caught with a strike.
Interestingly, these systems are somewhat related to Uechi ryu , containing some Mantis forms, including one like Seisan.
Sun Da is real.
Wak Yu Goot is not.
That was a joke.:-)
Wak Yu Goot=Whack You Good.
As for O Wa Ta Gu Siam, say that for a while, and when you figure it out, you'll really feel like one.That was something the Boy Scouts had the first timers chant in front of a fire, and told each when they figured it out, to shut up, get up,and have fun watching the others figure out they were chanting, not a national chant of Thailand, but 'Oh, What A goose I am!'
But sun da, or whatever the real name was, that was a nother matter.
Only really secret art I know of today.
There are family arts that are kept in families, of course.Some have taught people from outside the family.They are not necessarily superior or different than openly taught art, but their secrecy guarantees a non family member won't know beforehand from looking, what you are going to do until you do it.
There is a sort of hidden type Chinese art called Yau Kuen Mon Kung Fu,I knew a guy that was family, we trained some, and his art was very like White Eyebrow or White Tiger styles.
If you didnt know that beforehand and tangled with one of thes folks, u would robably get caught with a strike.
Interestingly, these systems are somewhat related to Uechi ryu , containing some Mantis forms, including one like Seisan.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kusanku:
There is a sort of hidden type Chinese art called Yau Kuen Mon Kung Fu,I knew a guy that was family, we trained some, and his art was very like White Eyebrow or White Tiger styles.
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Actually, Yau Kung Moon is quite popular in Hong Kong. It was introduced to Hong Kong in the 50's. The founder of the style was a Northerner(ie, any Chinese other than a Cantonese)
who ran away from the Communists.The name of the style is new,but basically it's a mixture of northern Chinese kung fu styles.
Bill
There is a sort of hidden type Chinese art called Yau Kuen Mon Kung Fu,I knew a guy that was family, we trained some, and his art was very like White Eyebrow or White Tiger styles.
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Actually, Yau Kung Moon is quite popular in Hong Kong. It was introduced to Hong Kong in the 50's. The founder of the style was a Northerner(ie, any Chinese other than a Cantonese)
who ran away from the Communists.The name of the style is new,but basically it's a mixture of northern Chinese kung fu styles.Bill
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Bill Mok says"Actually Yau Kung Moon is quite popular in Hing Kong.'
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Stay away frok Hong Kong, they know all styles there, ancient and forbiddeen kung fu.
I repeat-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
I feel much better now.:-)
Thanks for the info Bill.
Regards, '
John
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Stay away frok Hong Kong, they know all styles there, ancient and forbiddeen kung fu.I repeat-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
I feel much better now.:-)
Thanks for the info Bill.
Regards, '
John
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Dear Satan,
Could you be referring to Falun-gong or Falun Dafa? It is a forbidden spiritual martial art, and is supposed to cause insanity in some practitioners. I don't know about knocking an opponent back several feet, but the founder is supposed to be able to levitate. Run a search in this forum as this has been discussed in the past.
Good luck in hell;-)
Mal Wagner
Could you be referring to Falun-gong or Falun Dafa? It is a forbidden spiritual martial art, and is supposed to cause insanity in some practitioners. I don't know about knocking an opponent back several feet, but the founder is supposed to be able to levitate. Run a search in this forum as this has been discussed in the past.
Good luck in hell;-)
Mal Wagner
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website of Yau Kung Moon in USA:
www.ykmusa.com
www.ykmusa.com
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Yau Kung Moon got a website, folks!
Thanks, Bill.
No secret, no more.
Regards,
John
Thanks, Bill.
No secret, no more.
Regards,
John
